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Old Feb 5, 2016 | 05:13 AM
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hi guys

hope you can help me out.. i just did a b16a1 swap on my 90 hatch ed7.. everything is running well exept when i first start the idle is playing between 1000 and 2000 revs after some driving it will low down.. the other problem is that on idle the temp is ok after some driving the temp will rise. i dont have a thermostat and the fan is switching ok. what could be the problem??
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Old Feb 5, 2016 | 07:04 AM
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prably air in your coolant
Why don't you have a thermostat? tThat is really bad for the wear of your engine
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Old Feb 5, 2016 | 09:55 AM
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Poor heat + idle irregularity = air in coolant

Most likely. Bleed cooling system and report back. While you're at it, put an OEM thermostat in. If Honda could have saved $1.50 across one million cars by not sticking a thermostat in, don't you think they would have?
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Old Feb 5, 2016 | 10:08 PM
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i didnt put the thermo stat in place because i saw some corrosion and didnt want the corrosion to get stuck with the thermostat. have one new just need to clean the system first.
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Old Feb 7, 2016 | 08:28 AM
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hi guys. i put the thermostat in place rebleed the cooling system and the idle prob is ''solved'' when start it will go up 2k rev but after a while it drops, it didnt play between 1k and 2k but still have the heating problem.. on idle its ok the fan switch on the temp stay a little under the middle but after i take a little drive it will go up..dont know whsat can i do more
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Old Feb 7, 2016 | 09:04 AM
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could it be a head gasket problem?
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Old Feb 10, 2016 | 05:08 AM
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If you found enough corrosion to raise a red flag and not replace the thermostat, then I suggest flushing your heater core. It can become clogged with said debris and wont allow warm coolant to pass through as easily.
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Old Feb 10, 2016 | 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Ohmega
If you found enough corrosion to raise a red flag and not replace the thermostat, then I suggest flushing your heater core. It can become clogged with said debris and wont allow warm coolant to pass through as easily.
But more importantly, your radiator should be flushed/replaced. If there's a blockage in the heater core, the coolant will bypass and continue to circulate no worries.
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Old Feb 10, 2016 | 05:39 PM
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The fan switch is it OEM or aftermarket.... Had a crap aftermarket made in Mexico one and the fan temp engagement point was a quarter of the way higher than where it was supposed to be. So it would go up in traffic or idle and go down when I accelerated or was on the highway.
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Old Feb 10, 2016 | 08:42 PM
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hi guys.. thanks for your help.. i changed the radiator and now is ok temp is good and idle is better. i gave it a good run and everything is good
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Old Feb 11, 2016 | 07:12 AM
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Glad you got it going!
I'm curious about the corrosion.
Coolant has ingredients in it to prevent corrosion. If you run straight water, then you get issues.
Hope you have coolant in there!
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Old Feb 11, 2016 | 12:51 PM
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i def putt coolant in there.. i think the previous owner didnt heh
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Old Feb 11, 2016 | 05:23 PM
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buy full strength cooant and disilled water
make your own 50/50 or 60/40, 70/30 whatever
So much cheaper
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Old Feb 11, 2016 | 05:31 PM
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Check out this ChrisFix video on the heater core. Not a Honda, but the ideas and walk through are solid.

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Old Feb 11, 2016 | 07:33 PM
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Be careful with those fittings on the firewall. They're brass and crumple easily
You can't remove the hoses, just slice them off.

I say remove the hose from the motor side and proceed with the flush.
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Old Feb 11, 2016 | 09:15 PM
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i removed the hoses an by passed them, so basicly i dont have any heater inside
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Old Feb 12, 2016 | 06:42 AM
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lol WHAT!?
So how do you have a heating problem?
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Old Feb 12, 2016 | 01:39 PM
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lol WHAT!?
So how do you have a heating problem?
Did you read the thread? Do you know what a heater core does?
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Old Feb 12, 2016 | 08:31 PM
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im removing the blower from inside the car because im trying to put the car to track.. i asked before i did this and was told that there should be no prob about it
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Old Feb 12, 2016 | 08:34 PM
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lol WHAT!?
So how do you have a heating problem?
the problem was the radiator it was blocked i tryed a new rad and it works perfect
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Old Feb 12, 2016 | 08:38 PM
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Oh I see.
Was it the original radiator?
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Old Feb 12, 2016 | 08:40 PM
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Oh I see.
Was it the original radiator?
yes now i put a tegiwa dual core aluminum rad both full size
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