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Civic VTi eg6 misfiring/hesitating after c14 capacitor burnt

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Old Jan 19, 2016 | 06:50 AM
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Hi guys! I've got a 93 edm eg6. B16A2 Engine. One month ago i was driving normally as soon as my engine turned off, CEL light went. I immediatly stopped the car and turned the key off. Meanwhile i smelled fish and some smoke come out from the ecu zone. Result: My C14 capacitor in the ecu burned down. Fortunately i had another ecu. A chipped P28 USDM Where i put a stock B16 edm map. Since that, my car misfires/hesitates for a moment, especially at full throttle and high rpm.
So i switched this udsm ecu to the original map(d16z6) and does the same. I bought a p30 and tried that. Same issue. Last try i did was ispecting distributor: rotor and cap. Rotor was a bit smoked ont the topend and gave the cap some sandpaper. Installed all back and now the problem got a little worse. What could be happened? Shortcut in c14 may have ruined somthing?
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Old Jan 19, 2016 | 06:56 AM
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What CEL codes are thrown?

When was the last ignition system tune up?
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Old Jan 19, 2016 | 07:00 AM
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CEL light went on when engine stopped itself and ecu started smoking. After changing ecu (because the one with c14 capacitor burnt, has a hole in the board and some electric tracks are gone) no CEL coeds or errors.
I putted distributor at 16° in november 2014.
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Old Jan 19, 2016 | 07:09 AM
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I putted distributor at 16° in november 2014.
Ignition system tune up - spark plugs, wires, distributor cap, rotor?
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Old Jan 19, 2016 | 07:19 AM
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Distributor bounght new in gennuary 2013 (8000 miles). It arrived with broken cap so i putted the old one. Rotor was with the distributor. Wires are oem, spark plugs have 3000 miles (changed in september 2015).
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Old Jan 19, 2016 | 07:32 AM
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How old are the wires?
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Old Jan 19, 2016 | 07:38 AM
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I think they are old like the car. I've never changed them.
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Old Jan 19, 2016 | 07:39 AM
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Replace the wires and cap with new ones and then go from there.
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Old Jan 19, 2016 | 07:52 AM
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I will do that and post what is happening. Thanks
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Old Jan 19, 2016 | 03:09 PM
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Here i'm. I put new rotor, distributor cap and blue ngk wires. I went for a ride and car got worse. Misfiring/hesitating was more till CEL light come on. I was afarid it was ECU again. But this time no smoking and engine still running. I suddenly stopped the car and checked error codes. Error 9 and error 20.
Now i left my car where i was and got home by my brother. Any ideas?
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Old Jan 19, 2016 | 03:12 PM
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Code 9 is the problem. Ohm test the distributor sensor from its two pins in the ECU connector.
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Old Jan 20, 2016 | 08:08 AM
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Distributor tested. Coil is 1 Ohm instead of 0.6-0.8 Ohm.
Anyway putted another distributor and problem seems to be solved.
I guess it was the old ecu when c14 capacitor burned down.
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Old Jan 20, 2016 | 08:10 AM
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Bad coil would not throw code 9, so there may have been more than one distributor problem.

Still have code 20?
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Old Jan 22, 2016 | 02:14 AM
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I did ecu reset procedure. Since i changed distributor, car goes smooth and no error codes. Only thing i can add is that the ditributor was a commercial one and had only 8000Miles
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Old Jan 27, 2016 | 03:07 PM
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Little issue. Today i did timing to 16°. Noticed with jumper on diagnosis connector that CEL blinked error 20. So i did the reset procedure but as soon as i turn to AAC, CEL blinks error 20. Electric Load Detector. I've got a EDM eg6 and they don't have ELD. But p28 ECU is USDM, chipped with crome base map for EDM b16. What's wrong? Does my ECU go in recovery?
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Old Jan 27, 2016 | 03:20 PM
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The ECU is looking for an ELD.
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Old Jan 27, 2016 | 03:29 PM
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Instead it's written disable ELD in the chip?
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Old Jan 27, 2016 | 03:30 PM
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Instead it's written disable ELD in the chip?
Apparently not.
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Old Jan 31, 2016 | 10:07 AM
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Anyway thanks a lot RonJ for your help.
Now i'm running with error 20 in memory but car goes fine. Thing unusual is that no engine light comes on, only if check errors blinks code 20.
I think I'll write another chip or try with EDM P30 to see what's gonna change.
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