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Old Jan 12, 2016 | 04:51 AM
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I can't tell if my clutch is slipping or not. I think it is. The video shows a 1-3rd gear pull. Seems like it's slipping in second gear around 7000rpm. I did smell metallic but I was braking with my brakes from 100mph but not slamming on them.

LS/VTEC Turbo with a LS transmission and 205/40/R17 tire size.

Don't pay attention to the a/f gauge. It crapped out on me earlier that day. Innovative or Bosch widebands seem to go bad easy.

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Old Jan 12, 2016 | 05:32 AM
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Doesn't look like it to me. Every one I have had slip from overpowering it will instantly hit the rev limiter after it reaches whatever RPM it starts slipping at under WOT conditions.
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Old Jan 12, 2016 | 05:42 AM
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Doesn't look like it to me. Every one I have had slip from overpowering it will instantly hit the rev limiter after it reaches whatever RPM it starts slipping at under WOT conditions.
Cool. I was hoping you would reply. I trust your opinion as you and a few others have given me sound advice before.

Welp, if the clutch is holding then I guess it's on to stickier tires and more power.

I looked at a RPM vs Speed chart for B series transmissions and the MPH seems to check out with 8000rpm with a LS. Just wanted to get some opinions.
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Old Jan 12, 2016 | 06:07 AM
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Default Re: Clutch slipping???? (video inside)

also, afaik, if your clutch slips it will always slip at the rpm where it slips. Tires tend to slip when they hit a certain torque value based on gearing multiplication, where the clutch isn't subject to the transmission torque multiplication so they will always slip at a certain RPM.
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Old Jan 12, 2016 | 06:15 AM
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Good to know. Thanks for that insight.
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Old Jan 12, 2016 | 07:41 AM
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You are welcome! And yes, maxwellmuder expanded on my poorly explained slip conditions; that has been my exact experience as he stated. Sorry, I was in a hurry LOL!
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Old Jan 19, 2016 | 10:03 AM
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Welp, I took the car out to the local spot here in NOLA and the clutch is toast lol. Maybe when it gets hot or maybe I have oil leaking or something.

I did this race. I had a passenger, damn near bald tires, didn't launch the car at all, and missed third so it took a second to get in gear. But when I get it in gear you see how it walks the MS3. I also need to setup BBG and launch control. Overall I'm happy with it for 300hp @ 9.5psi. Don't mind the wideband reading. The sensor took a dump on me a few nights before. Tired of the Bosch widebands going bad.


And then the MS3 and I made a u-turn and went again. I hit 2nd gear and my MPH stayed at 40mph and the revs flew up with a metallic smell after. Swapping to a GSR and ITR FD w/ LSD and also adding a new clutch.

I'll edit the other video and show the slipping.
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Old Jan 19, 2016 | 11:36 AM
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In the original video in your original post it doesn't show the MPH very well... with that being said, you having a modified car it should rack out the RPM much faster when it is slipping under WOT conditions or you will get a sever rev hang effect, which I see neither of those. Check out this videos for comparison - first video is fast reving, second is rev hang. Both are indication of a slipping clutch.



I am not saying your clutch absolutely isn't slipping especially since the smell is there, just by the current videos I don't see it. Maybe a new video will shed some light on things. In the second gear run the engine flutters a bit exactly like it does when the tires loose traction. The higher in the gears you go the more pronounced the slipping will become.
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Ok. I will post the second video when I get home from work. I'll try to make it bright so the gauges are clear to see.
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Here is a slow motion of 1st and 2nd. Speedometer sticks at 40mph all of second. I made it as bright as possible. Hope this helps.


Here is real time.
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Originally Posted by OneBadTurboCRV
In the original video in your original post it doesn't show the MPH very well... with that being said, you having a modified car it should rack out the RPM much faster when it is slipping under WOT conditions or you will get a sever rev hang effect, which I see neither of those. Check out this videos for comparison - first video is fast reving, second is rev hang. Both are indication of a slipping clutch.

https://youtu.be/ijhrDgxRweM

https://youtu.be/wg0cv-vkBR8

I am not saying your clutch absolutely isn't slipping especially since the smell is there, just by the current videos I don't see it. Maybe a new video will shed some light on things. In the second gear run the engine flutters a bit exactly like it does when the tires loose traction. The higher in the gears you go the more pronounced the slipping will become.
Check out the 2 short videos I posted.
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