Table Circled in red is the one i'm having a hard time understanding.

I cannot understand if a Higher Value adds or reduces Tip in Fueling.
I found a thread online of someone asking same question and he only recieved one response...From "Hondata" and he said "A higher Value adds more Fuel"
This thread is from 2008...
By that logic my understanding of fueling has to change.
If a higher value adds more fuel than I would have expected it to Slope the other direction with Coolant Temp.
I have all ways tuned fuel using the idea a cold engine needs more fuel..

I don't understand this table and could really use the help here.

 

All you need to do is click on the Help File. The Initial Tip In is for right after start up and lasts for about 90 seconds (so they say) for table lookup. The Tip In Normal is for everything after that.

Tip In fuel is for rapid throttle changes. This area actually usually does need some work and is typically amplified by larger injectors. When you mash the gas and it goes super rich or lean, there is a very high possibility you need to adjust your Tip In.

You can verify what the problem is by being sure your tune is good then trying to mash the throttle to see it's a Tip In tuning issue. The higher the number you put in the more fuel is added overall for a short duration - it's not long term adjustment. Hope this helps.

 

Yes that does help thanks! It's dipping into the .65 Territory when the gas is mashed in 5th Gear at 2000rpm and has a slight bog for a second then is Accelerating fine.
I will drop the operating temp number from 214 to say 50 and log it.
I think the Hesitation is due from to much fuel? Fuel Cut Off on the logs to be placed happy.

 

Did u ever fix the problem??? Think I'm having similar issues.

 

There is also "Throttle Tip-In Trim" under the "Fuel Trim" tab

So we have two places were we have fuel tip in trim

What does this ("Throttle Tip-In Trim") do in conjunction to the Tip In Fuel under the TPS tab?

Can anyone provide more info. or feedback on their experiences?

 

It is a global modifier applied to the Tip In tables. It works just like fuel trim and such. You have your global (or overall) modifier offsets and then your secondary fine tuning adjustment tables that are effected by that.

Hondata says the Overall and Cranking fuel trims are automatically compensated (in the background unfortunately) when you change injector size. The Tip In however, is not and must be adjusted manually. This is why most people end up having to pull fuel from the global modifier because the larger injectors are still using the smaller injectors global modifier numbers.

All of this information can be found in the Hondata Help Files. It is definitely an under utilized wealth of information although at times it can be too vague. Which is just like Hondata and the lack of Actual Timing display and other important details that might be missing.

 

thanks for the info! i get it now.

 

Not yeat. Have made imporvements. However this is not my Car, knor does it have a wideband. I tuned it with a wideband in a shoe box...

I do plan to spend some time trying solve it soon. Because yes when it does happen is just annoying. Yes it is intermittent.
I bought a Fuel Press Sensor and and Banjo adaptor. Will be wiring that to an Anolog input as well..

 

UPDATE 7/27/2015
Bog issue is fixed. Here are some specs that led me to the problem
Engine: b18c jdm TypeR with few bolt ons
Vehicle: 1996 Acura Integra LS
Problem: The LS has a different Fuel Pump and different FPR than the TypeR or GSR requires.

I datalogged fuel pressure and there is a definite drop and i'm 90% sure this is the bog problem

 

The higher number means more fuel, but colder combustion already has a higher overall trim (see ECT/IAT scales), so it doesn't need higher tip-in.

 

Yesir. I had that figured a while back lol. There is already Fuel Comp going on in the low temps. So much so, I doubt the stock 240cc Injectors could do anything other than go static down there.