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Old May 16, 2015 | 02:57 AM
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anyome know how much a pain this would be? and if the spoon sports lsd kit is good or should I go with somethimg a bit cheaper. On the other hand theres buying a type tranny. Thoughts?
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Old May 16, 2015 | 05:14 AM
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Do you know what's involved in installing an LSD? I suggest just the 98+ itr trans plus that spoon lsd is the cost of almost 2 ITR trans.
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Old May 16, 2015 | 08:48 AM
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What transmission do you have ? , might be better off buying an mfactory LSD for it.
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Old May 16, 2015 | 10:24 AM
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i have the gsr tranny
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Old May 16, 2015 | 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by B_Swapped93
Do you know what's involved in installing an LSD? I suggest just the 98+ itr trans plus that spoon lsd is the cost of almost 2 ITR trans.
know a bit but never had a transmission apart
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Old May 16, 2015 | 10:59 AM
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If you have no experience in rebuilding engines/tranny's just buy an itr tranny.
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Old May 16, 2015 | 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by tony_2018
If you have no experience in rebuilding engines/tranny's just buy an itr tranny.
Ive done alot of engine work, even took a course on them just not trannys. The reason I want to know is because im buying a new engine and rebuilding mine. Wondering which route would be cheaper and less of a headache Gs-r motor and tranny with a conversion or Type-R motor and tranny. New motor is to use the car while rebuilding mine
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Old May 16, 2015 | 03:05 PM
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there's no need for an overhyped spoon lsd, a itr trans will be just fine if you were to go to the hassle of an aftermarket one OS-Giken is by far the best. Trans internals are a whole different game, don't be fooled in thinking you can swap pistons and rods then just dive into ripping a trans apart.
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Old May 16, 2015 | 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by B_Swapped93
there's no need for an overhyped spoon lsd, a itr trans will be just fine if you were to go to the hassle of an aftermarket one OS-Giken is by far the best. Trans internals are a whole different game, don't be fooled in thinking you can swap pistons and rods then just dive into ripping a trans apart.
Deffinitely dont think that... transmissions scare me lol. would do much needed research first
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Old May 16, 2015 | 05:19 PM
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it's still not worth it that's what i'm trying to get across everyone overhypes "spoon" the one spoon thing I did have wasn't even good the spoon calipers my stock R calipers worked just as well. they were just for bling if you read about them lots of ppl share the same opinion.
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Old May 16, 2015 | 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by B_Swapped93
it's still not worth it that's what i'm trying to get across everyone overhypes "spoon" the one spoon thing I did have wasn't even good the spoon calipers my stock R calipers worked just as well. they were just for bling if you read about them lots of ppl share the same opinion.
I dont even care about the spoon lsd just lsds in generalI
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Old May 16, 2015 | 11:32 PM
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Just get the ITR trans, much better ratios and already has the helical LSD installed. Buying an aftermarket LSD isn't cheap and it isn't easy to install either.
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Old May 18, 2015 | 09:41 AM
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Spoon is a clutch type lsd. It's far more aggressive than the ITR lsd. It's expensive too. There are other companies, like MFactory, that make a good bang for the buck lsd.

Decide what you plan on doing with the car. If it's not a track purposed car, I would go with a Helical lsd, but you can search helical vs clutch type and decide for yourself.

The people telling you that it's hard to install a lsd, probably have never done it themselves, so take it with a grain a salt. They're trying to scare you because they're scared themselves. They'll tell you you can't do it because they can't do it themselves. Pick up a helm manual, and you'll find that it's pretty straight forward.
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Old May 18, 2015 | 10:29 AM
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Let me start off by saying I agree with most of the things the above members have said.

However,

I too was originally terrified to "break-open" my mint gsr tranny. I have built engines before, but never fooled with the transmission. With that being said, I researched the procedure and watched a very informative video on youtube about swapping out differentials in the b-series transmission.

I purchased a OEM Type-R helical lsd for $450 and took a crack at it. It was a very basic install and all said and done, works flawlessly just like before I pulled the trans. The most important thing was shimming the new diff. to stock tolerances using a good digital caliper. The most difficult part was lining the damn case back up.

You can do it yourself if you are thorough and patient.

Here is the video I watched:

Good Luck
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Old May 18, 2015 | 07:01 PM
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Installing a diff isn't as hard as you would think. I did a diff swap myself with no previous experience and more recently a final drive swap.

Do some research, download the manual, and take your time.
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Old May 25, 2015 | 06:39 AM
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It is pretty straight forward but he did say he wanted to take a "cheaper, less of a headache route" and he just wants LSD.
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Old Jun 4, 2015 | 03:50 PM
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Stock itr >> gsr with lsd and its easier to deal with.
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Old Jun 5, 2015 | 06:18 PM
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Keep the clutch LSDs for the track. I installed an ITR helical LSD in my GSR trasmission 11 years ago. I also converted the differential bearing from tapered to ball. It took ten hours from staft to finish. It has has zero issues.
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Old Jun 5, 2015 | 06:23 PM
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how much power can the stock tranny handle? i could look it up but already in this thread
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