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Old May 15, 2015 | 05:28 PM
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93 del sol, D16Z6 automatic.

I did a rebuild on the engine 1600 miles ago (engine is running well!) but lately i'd been noticing some chirping. I thought it was a belt slightly misaligned but after trying to chase it down I noticed it went away when I raised the hood so oh the hood was just misaligned. I had my gf help me and she noticed the engine tilted slightly when I shifted from Drive to Park causing it to vibrate the hood. holy crap?! so I checked the engine mounts and the left and right upper mounts, the engine to mount bolts were good but the mount to body bolts had worked themselves back out some, more on the transmission side. I reread the engine mount install directions to make sure I wasn't supposed to use anything on the bolts to help secure them, and it just says to take some weight off the mounts by slight raising the engine and tighten into the welded on nuts so I did that again. Is there something that would cause this to happen I may have missed to watch for?
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Old May 15, 2015 | 05:40 PM
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Did you tighten the bolts with a torque wrench?
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Old May 15, 2015 | 06:03 PM
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Did you tighten the bolts with a torque wrench?
I did but I noticed I actually cannot find torque specs to the mount to body bolt in the service manual PDF in the engine removal section or in the Haynes manual, I have 40 written down on my notes but it was long enough ago I'm not sure what the source was on that.
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Old May 15, 2015 | 06:08 PM
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Old May 15, 2015 | 06:13 PM
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that's the page i'm looking at, it doesn't have the through bolt torque unless i'm misreading it?

upper left and middle right of the top picture are the ones I found loose

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Old May 15, 2015 | 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Neth
that's the page i'm looking at, it doesn't have the through bolt torque unless i'm misreading it?

upper left and middle right of the top picture are the ones I found loose
This should cover the missing ones:

Torque mount:


Engine mount:


Transmission mount:


Rear mount:
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Old May 15, 2015 | 07:55 PM
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that's perfect, thanks! what section was that in?
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Old May 15, 2015 | 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Neth
what section was that in?
A/C compressor (torque mount), transmission installation (transmission and rear mount), timing belt (engine mount)
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Old May 16, 2015 | 11:14 AM
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alright so i got everything tightened down to the torque specs but there is still some tilting when I shift gears, any ideas?
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Old May 16, 2015 | 11:15 AM
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Bad mounts?

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Old May 16, 2015 | 11:41 AM
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Default Re: 93 del sol - Engine Mounts loose...

How are the rubber inserts?
Are they cracked or stretched?

Did you replace the mounts when you did the engine rebuild? If they are original to the car, it wouldn't hurt to replace them.
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Old May 16, 2015 | 12:39 PM
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alright, not the greatest as my phone starts to slide as the video goes


as to the question about how the mounts are, I didn't see anything especially wrong when i was putting it back in, but I also wasn't thinking about that as they weren't a problem (that I knew of) before.
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Old May 17, 2015 | 04:34 PM
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so this "stopper" seems to be bad now, the others had nothing much.
(driver side lower)
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Old May 18, 2015 | 02:48 PM
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Lol that stopper is only the Lower Torque Mount.

Replace them both with OEMs, sometimes aftermarkets don't fit right.

Or get the Energy Suspension Inserts and those should make them work again, tho, it will be a lil more vibration from the engine to the body you will notice.

http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com/...+MOUNT+%281%29

http://www.energysuspensionparts.com...p?prod=16.1105
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Old May 19, 2015 | 09:38 AM
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Default Re: 93 del sol - Engine Mounts loose...

hehe, sorry, I used stopper because that's what is on the hondaautomotiveparts listing that I was looking at and you linked but I wasn't sure that was actually it's general name. getting the two replacements thanks for pointing me down the right track.
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Old May 19, 2015 | 02:24 PM
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Make sure you get the Auto version! I forgot that I have it set for my car, so double check that order. They are not the same.
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Old May 19, 2015 | 04:45 PM
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Haha no worries I don't actually order from there, the shipping charge kills it, my local dealership usually has the same prices, wish I would looked at these while I had the engine out though ugh.
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Old May 27, 2015 | 12:52 PM
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ugh, so I replaced the 2 side transmission stopper/mounts and it still is tilting up from the front (so rotating clockwise) when shifting. does that give any indication on which other mount I should investigate farther? I have a bad feeling the answer is going to be the rear mount which doesn't look like it's going to be any fun to get to with the engine in the car.
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Old May 27, 2015 | 02:02 PM
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rear motor mount.
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