Hello Everyone, this is my first post, so excuse me if I am excluding some important information. I have a 2002 Honda Accord lx 4 door 2.3l vtec. About a week ago, it started driving really strange and it doesn't start up right away like it used to. Check engine light came at this same time. I went to autozone so they could run the codes and I got p1362 which is the tdc sensor. After doing some research online I found that the tdc sensor can be found in the distibutor or somewhere near the oil pump and crank area. What I'm trying to figure out if this sensor is really in the dizzy or if it near the oil pump where the timing belt is. I have not been able to find a clear answer so far as I am getting mixed answers. I am hoping it is as simple as just changing the district and not having to open the timing belt area. Also the car doesn't Rev over 3000 rpms. When I'm driving it just goes up to 3000 and just feels like it's hitting the Rev limiter. And car shakes and jerks when I try to go over 3000. Thanks in advance for any help.

 

Tdc sensor is inside the distributor.

 

The TDC and CKP sensors are combined together and located down at the crankshaft pulley.

Check the electrical connector and wiring first. You can also test the sensor.

 

Where is the crank fluctuation sensor located ?

 

you guys are contradicting^ the cyp sensor is in the distributor and the CPS/TDC are located on the crank pulley

 

A CKP sensor is a Crankshaft Position (CKP) Sensor.

 

Yeah, I had a feeling it would be near the crank pulley. I believe the tdc sensor is in the dizzy if the car was OBD1 and near the crank pully in OBD2 cars.

 

yes they're different in obd1

 

P1362 is TDC sensor no signal.

Take a look at the connector and wiring first.

 

With all due respect I believe this to be wrong. While the oem sites, for some reason, list the crank and tdc sensor together I'm almost certain the tdc still resides in the distributor in obd2 cars while the crank sensor, alone, moved to the crank(to watch the crank timing pulley) and added the crank fluctuation sensor(to watch the front balance shaft pulley) to its assembly to detect misfires and determine egr flow, if any.

I kindly and respectfully ask for you to provide documention to back up your claim.

I do see your above picture which calls it the same but i would like to know how two sensors can be the same thing but do different things.

Also, I still would like you to point out where the crank fluctuation sensor is located/mounts to. I believe that the tdc sensor you refer to is, actually, the crank fluctuation sensor.

Also, if somehow i am wrong i will stand corrected.

 

Also since the tdc is the "cam" sensor I'm not sure why it would be monitoring the crank instead of the cam.

 

Your assumptions are incorrect.

The Cylinder Position Sensor (CYP) is located in the distributor.

The 1998-2002 Accords does not use a crank fluctuation sensor (some Civics use a crank fluctuation sensor).

The TDC and CKP sensors are combined as an assembly, as shown in the image. As I previously stated, a CKP sensor is a Crankshaft Position (CKP) Sensor. The sensors themselves are technically still separate. TDC sensor is on one side of the crank and the CKP sensor is on the other side. The TDC sensor has a Lt Grn wire and a Red wire, while the CKP sensor has a Lt Blu wire and a Wht wire. A problem with the respective sensor circuit will throw it's respective OBD-II trouble code.

Documentation is in Honda service manuals, electrical troubleshooting manuals, internet...

You can see the same part looking at Honda parts website for the 6th gen Accord 4 cylinders.

 

Yup i know some of the civics do but not even the honda oem sites list the crank fluctuation sensor as a part number for civics. They all show the crank-tdc sensor assembly as being at the crank. In fact i have never seen any site listing the ckf as being available for purchase so something is up.

 

Umm... Honda part number 37501-P2J-J01 Sensor, Crank-Ckf (Denso) Diagram part #14 for Civic....

1999 Honda Civic 4 Door EX KA 5MT Oil Pump - Oil Strainer

 

awesome so it looks like its only civics and civics alone .. i stand corrected