Travis Gold

Bought a 96 Accord DX tonight. 212,000km in nice shape for $300 it died while driving it and wouldn't rev past 1500rpm when restarted. Checked the codes and found P0335/P0336 Camshaft Position Sensor issues. Where is it located so I can replace it, can anyone give me some detailed info on it.. I've Googled it and ended up getting pissed off with Google. This is my second same coloured 96 Accord. First one was a F22. I just want to be able to drive my DX...

GhostAccord

Both of those error codes are for the crankshaft position sensor. The CKP/TDC sensor assembly is mounted down on the oil pump housing under the timing belt cover. There are 2 sensors incorporated in this assembly, the crankshaft position sensor and the top dead center sensor.

Best option would be to troubleshoot the wiring before you go ripping into taking off the timing cover. Check the connections and make sure they are clean and tight. The connection and wiring harness is located on the firewall side of the timing belt cover down near the crankshaft pulley.

Travis Gold

Thank you, I will give it a shot, how do I test the wiring? I have a analog multimeter, should I just see if it reads?

Travis Gold

Well a bit of an update, I wiggled the connector to the sensors and it allowed the car to rev past 4500rpm to 8000rpm, it was surging at idle, after a few revs, dropped it into drive and it stopped surging in drive, after a few minutes in drive it quit surging in park, I let it idle for 5 mins and when I came out, the engine stalled, but fired right up again, drove it a few doors down and it stalled out, but started in park, wouldn't start in neutral, currently it won't rev past 3500rpm without bouncing off the limiter. I am thinking about disconnecting the connector and cleaning the terminals and seeing what that does, I still need to replace the timing belt and waterpump.

GhostAccord

If you are in there for the belt, that will be a good time to check for a short in the sensor wire harness. Or a loose or broken mount on the sensors.

Travis Gold

I'll give it a shot.. I have a guy repairing it for me when the parts come, I don't like to touch timing, i've done it before and I won't bother again lol

Travis Gold

So update on the car, with further inspection of the electrical connector for the crankshaft sensor, I determined it had a break in the wire going into the connector, I cut the connector off and replaced the wires with butt connectors.. checking resistance or ohms the meter would move on the new connections, but once you put the meter on the wires the car would stumble and attempt to die, remove the test leads, car ran great..!! I managed to reset the computer by removing a terminal off the battery, and took it for a drive, it had tons of power and no code tripped, upon pulling into my driveway it started stumbling.. CEL light immediately turned on and the car died, checking the codes gave me a P1361 for the camshaft sensor and top dead center sensor etc... No other codes present.. any ideas? I am going to see if I can somehow make the new connectors I installed a bit better job tomorrow, I ran out of light for tonight.

animaul22

i have a 97 CL 2.2 doing the same thing. Even changed the cam sensor and still get code. Did you ever find out what was the cause?

GhostAccord

Is the check engine light on and it if is what diagnostic trouble codes are you getting?

If you changed the sensor and are still getting the same code, it is probably in the wiring between the sensor and the ECU or possibly the ECU itself.

There are steps to follow when diagnosing a DT Code. Usually you start with testing the sensor, then the wiring then the ECU.

animaul22

I get p1361 once the car warms up. Won't throw code until it warms, once CEL comes on it goes into limp mode.

animaul22

Checked all wires, cleaned all connections with CRC, no bad looking wires. Car runs great till code trips. Sometimes it starts to run rough and others it has no change at all except limp mode

holmesnmanny

What exactly did you check ?

GhostAccord

What sensor did you replace? Code P1361 is for the top dead center sensor, it's not the cam sensor.

Here is how you test for a P1361 error code;



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animaul22

From my understanding my car doesn't have the one on/by the distributor, just the cam sensor has both in it. I did a visual check because I didn't have an ohm meter. Bro will bring his by later

GhostAccord

The OBD2 (96-97) F22B1/B2 engines have the cylinder position sensor (CYP) located in the distributor. While the top dead center sensor (TDC) and the crank position sensor (CKP) come as one assembly, located behind the crank pulley mounted on the oil pump housing. The P1361 test procedure that I posted above is for your car.

Raul Lopez

where did you find the cam sensor ive searched the whole motor looking to find it but no luck can you please tell me where it is

Riley Olsen