I need all the info any members might have on the EO7A intricacies. Finding specifications, or knowledge on it's systems is daunting. I have read the build thread done by White Sol on his Honda Beat swap, and if i acquire a Beat there will be a need for livening up the powerplant as 64 advertised hp at 8100 rpm doesnt match up well to pushing 760 kg around(instead of switching it out to a b series).

I think forced induction will be necessary (turbocharger). Controlling the fuel, and spark will be the hardest part. If anyone has tuning experience, or any ideas on how to tune the ecu(reflashes,piggybacks), or any on the best replacement engine management system i would be most appreciative.

my knowledge of the EO7A MTREC variant is:
3 cylinder, 4 stroke, SOHC, individual throttle bodies, EFI(multi-point fuel injection PGM-FI), 12 valve head, bore *stroke 66*64, I have no idea of the ignition system.

Apologies if this is posted in the wrong section.
Any help is appreciated.

 

...Carozzeria Pininfarina actually made that abortion of a car? The bumpers and fender wells don't even line up properly. The only saving grace of that car is it being mid-engined...but it's a freaking kei car. They aren't even allowed to put a proper engine in it.

It's your money, and your time, but since you're here for advice...don't waste either of the above on the car. If you want a kei car for the sake of having one, get it, accept the limitations of it, and leave it alone. If you want something small and cute with two seats that's sporty, get a Del Sol, CRX, MR2, or any other small, sporty 2 seater for a canvas to work on.

 

While I had forgotten who had designed the car my opinion of it's styling is set; I was hoping for input in regards to the performance of it. I can barely stomach the idea of driving a fwd vehicle and I currently own a 93 JDM mr2 but I now want the beat. I thought HT might have been the forum where people might best have the technical expertise on the beat.

 

It's a Kei car. That classification alone limits you in a number of ways. First off, it was engineered specifically to have that horrible little motor in it. Second, this is a primarily American forum. Very few people here have even seen that car, let alone have any technical information on it. You're pretty much on your own for whatever you want to do to that...thing.

 

Yea this seems to be a very American based forum. few if any will know anything about that car besides what can be found on google.

I have a few friends who live in Japan and build these types of cars, I'll ask their opinions.

 

Hey mate
Beat owner here from Australia.

Firstly, beauty is in the eye of the beholder... I must admit first time I saw a stock beat, jacked up on those s#!tty 13's it wasn't excatly love at first sight. It's more of a novelty car really but it's grown a lot on me and after doing a few minor changes to the styling I love the way it looks and as far as I can see so does everyone else.

Secondly, the 656cc MTREC actually isn't as slow as you'd expect. As soon as you chuck another 80kg+ passenger in the car you certainly feel it, but it's as fast as I need it to be for a summer cruiser. I'd compare it's acceleration/speed to a stock twin cam EG. Maybe it just feels fast because of how low to the ground you are and the growl from the ITB's less than a metre behind your head. Also no problem getting up hills so it's relatively torquey and very responsive. The car handles great and actually has plentuy of shred-able weight in it.

I am also toying with the idea of a swap one day, more likely a 1000cc CBR motor or something similar to keep the weight down as B or K means having to run it relatively high off the ground and putting weight on.

As far as boost goes, it's definitely do-able and there are off the shelf kits available in Japan (although you may need to dig around a bit to find them). If you're going for a custom setup may need to have a new IM fabricated as the factory item is basically ITB's with a plastic cover over them. Then as you said engine management may be an issue but something an experienced tuner and a bit of cash may fix.

My response is about 2 years late but if you're still looking at the idea of purchasing a Beat i'd definitely recommend it. Great fun little car.

 

Hi, I appreciate your response, even if it was maybe a little late.

I'm curious about you're idea to swap motorcycle engine into the Beat? They don't have reverse gears so wouldn't you need an adapter for the transmission of some kind?

 

It's been done. Look up user 'marcair' - he swapped a Hayabusa 1300 cc engine into his Beat. He ended up using a Quaife box and has/had 6 speeds forward and reverse.

I used to have a 1991 Beat and had all my manuals digitally, but lost them when my hard drive crashed. U-UK HBC Unofficial Home of the Honda Beat used to be where I spent a lot of time when I had mine.

 

This thread is very old with new responses other than the 2 last previous. I don't believe in completely eliminating dead threads, so please contribute to this as much as possible. This may get transferred into the hybrid/swapped section depending upon the content level of the material.

Keep it going people..