Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000) EG/EH/EJ/EK/EM1 Discussion

car goes into limp mode before vtec kicks in

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jul 31, 2014 | 01:18 PM
  #1  
Gavin G's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jun 2014
Posts: 15
Likes: 0
From: south wales
Default car goes into limp mode before vtec kicks in

i have just swapped a 1992 import sir engine into a 1998 uk spec esi.

now the car is warm at this point.

but when still or driving the car seems to limit at 3k revs (going into limp mode to protect engine i believe) i can't figure out why this is.

engine management light is on so how do i find out what the problem is? (i know where the diagnostic plugs are) but is there a way to find a code without using a computer program plugged in? or does anyone know the answer to my problem?

i had to wire my map sensor to ecu could this be a problem with soldering?

lambda sensor is fine

or could it also be that i changed ecu from p28 to the p30 that came with new engine

any help will be great and thanks in advance

gavin
Reply
Old Jul 31, 2014 | 01:53 PM
  #2  
Lucidic's Avatar
Trial User
 
Joined: Jul 2014
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
Default Re: car goes into limp mode before vtec kicks in

Probably a cam sensor/crank sensor... check the codes
Reply
Old Jul 31, 2014 | 02:04 PM
  #3  
tony_2018's Avatar
Fish Twig
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 15,554
Likes: 309
From: Still hunting that foo up there
Default Re: car goes into limp mode before vtec kicks in

Pull from RonJ's signature, thank him later.

https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-civic-del-sol-1992-2000-1/how-pull-cel-d4-srs-abs-codes-code-lists-1901557/
Reply
Old Jul 31, 2014 | 07:41 PM
  #4  
crazyhouse2011's Avatar
B*a*n*n*e*d
 
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 1,918
Likes: 0
From: 8 inches deep in your mom
Default Re: car goes into limp mode before vtec kicks in

you need to check to make sure your vtech sulinoide isn't clogged. Check the screen on it and clean it with brake cleaner or gasoline
Reply
Old Jul 31, 2014 | 08:09 PM
  #5  
B serious's Avatar
Cool Cool Island Breezes. BOY-EE
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 11,953
Likes: 9
From: TRILLINOIS....WAY downtown, jerky.
Default Re: car goes into limp mode before vtec kicks in

^that theory would work if VTEC is set at 3k RPM...like on a multi stage VTEC engine or something.

Most likely needs a distributor due to a bad CKP/TDC sensor.
Reply
Old Aug 1, 2014 | 12:35 AM
  #6  
NotARaCist's Avatar
I never narc'd on nobody!
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 9,537
Likes: 2
Default Re: car goes into limp mode before vtec kicks in

Most likely nothing. OP needs to pull the CEL code(s). Without the codes, there are a number of things that can cause it, and random guesses are only going to waste everyone's time.
Reply
Old Aug 1, 2014 | 12:47 AM
  #7  
shotoutacc0rd's Avatar
B*a*n*n*e*d
 
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 1,035
Likes: 0
Default Re: car goes into limp mode before vtec kicks in

Originally Posted by NotARacist
Most likely nothing. OP needs to pull the CEL code(s). Without the codes, there are a number of things that can cause it, and random guesses are only going to waste everyone's time.
how much would you like to bet that its only the secondary o2 sensor?
Reply
Old Aug 1, 2014 | 01:01 AM
  #8  
NotARaCist's Avatar
I never narc'd on nobody!
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 9,537
Likes: 2
Default Re: car goes into limp mode before vtec kicks in

I'm going to guess you're being sarcastic, since the things OP has already said makes it pretty clear that it's an OBD1 setup, so there isn't a secondary O2 sensor, and even if there were one, it wouldn't cause limp.

Just to be clear, when I said "most likely nothing", I meant there is nothing that it is most likely, NOT that there wasn't a problem.
Reply
Old Aug 1, 2014 | 01:21 AM
  #9  
Gavin G's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jun 2014
Posts: 15
Likes: 0
From: south wales
Default Re: car goes into limp mode before vtec kicks in

here are the codes

4 CKP - crank position sensor
20 Electrical load detector
22 VTEC pressure valve
41 Primary oxygen sensor heater

if anyone can link me to posts that have solved these problems would be great or how to fix the problem.

41 i have changed so its a case of erasing that code
Reply
Old Aug 1, 2014 | 02:31 AM
  #10  
HondaPartsHero's Avatar
Technical Hero
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 9,875
Likes: 35
From: Charlotte, NC, 28227
Default Re: car goes into limp mode before vtec kicks in

Clear your codes to see which ones come back and then:

Code 4



Code 20




Code 22





Code 41


Reply
Old Aug 1, 2014 | 05:20 AM
  #11  
Gavin G's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jun 2014
Posts: 15
Likes: 0
From: south wales
Default Re: car goes into limp mode before vtec kicks in

iv cleared the crank position sensor and oxygen sensor!

but i'm now left with electrical load detector and vtec pressure valve!

i cant seem to find the electrical load detector on my 1998 del sol which was originally
d-series engine.

with the vtec pressure valve is it just easier to replace vtec controller completely?
Reply
Old Aug 1, 2014 | 05:53 AM
  #12  
tony_2018's Avatar
Fish Twig
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 15,554
Likes: 309
From: Still hunting that foo up there
Default Re: car goes into limp mode before vtec kicks in

ELD is located in your fusebox. I'm not sure if the UK ever had ELD's. Also you didn't specify you had a vtec controller, if you do remove that **** and wire up the vtec directly to the ecu as it was intended.

With a vtec controller even if you engage it early it will not change the fuel maps. Unless the vtec controller adjusts the fuel maps as well, V-AFC Apex'i, than its a useless controller.
Reply
Old Aug 1, 2014 | 06:57 AM
  #13  
Gavin G's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jun 2014
Posts: 15
Likes: 0
From: south wales
Default Re: car goes into limp mode before vtec kicks in

vtec solenoid i meant sorry, well i don't think uk models do have ELD as i think its just searching for it from the old car but because i'm using the p30 from import sir 1992 its looking for it where as its not actually got one.

will this be a problem or nothing to be concerned about?
Reply
Old Aug 1, 2014 | 08:53 AM
  #14  
Gavin G's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jun 2014
Posts: 15
Likes: 0
From: south wales
Default vtec pressure switch

my del sol is throwing code 22 which is vtec pressure switch although when driving the car it allows vtec to kick in and everything runs fine but still shows code? any help please?

thanks
Reply
Old Aug 1, 2014 | 09:43 AM
  #15  
TomCat39's Avatar
Hysterically Calm
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 10,439
Likes: 597
Default Re: car goes into limp mode before vtec kicks in

You already have this thread going about your issue(s) on this car and vtec is one of them.

Please do not create multiple threads for the same car and issue(s). Just continue here until you get resolution.

Unless these are two different cars.... If so I can fix.
Reply
Old Aug 1, 2014 | 09:50 AM
  #16  
Gavin G's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jun 2014
Posts: 15
Likes: 0
From: south wales
Default Re: car goes into limp mode before vtec kicks in

i thought i did post in the same thread unless i created new post instead of reply

my mistake
Reply
Old Aug 2, 2014 | 01:10 AM
  #17  
Gavin G's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jun 2014
Posts: 15
Likes: 0
From: south wales
Default Re: car goes into limp mode before vtec kicks in

Anyone?
Reply
Old Aug 2, 2014 | 01:11 AM
  #18  
Gavin G's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jun 2014
Posts: 15
Likes: 0
From: south wales
Default Re: vtec pressure switch

Originally Posted by Gavin G
my del sol is throwing code 22 which is vtec pressure switch although when driving the car it allows vtec to kick in and everything runs fine but still shows code? any help please?

thanks
Anyone? Was meant to quote in above post but it didnt thats why its 2 saying anyone!

Question in the quote
Reply
Old Aug 2, 2014 | 04:09 AM
  #19  
HondaPartsHero's Avatar
Technical Hero
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 9,875
Likes: 35
From: Charlotte, NC, 28227
Default Re: car goes into limp mode before vtec kicks in

Did you troubleshoot according to the diagram above?
Reply
Old Aug 2, 2014 | 04:10 AM
  #20  
tony_2018's Avatar
Fish Twig
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 15,554
Likes: 309
From: Still hunting that foo up there
Default Re: car goes into limp mode before vtec kicks in

That's what I was wondering...
Reply
Old Aug 2, 2014 | 05:25 AM
  #21  
Gavin G's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jun 2014
Posts: 15
Likes: 0
From: south wales
Default Re: car goes into limp mode before vtec kicks in

yes like i said vtec kicks in but the code still stays on.
i've now wired it into ecu my self and seems to be fine now
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
BILLisCHILL
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000)
5
Apr 17, 2008 05:52 AM
HondaHero
Acura Integra
7
Apr 28, 2007 08:52 PM
racingcrx
Honda CRX / EF Civic (1988 - 1991)
13
Sep 10, 2006 12:52 AM
TheIceMan
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000)
12
Dec 23, 2005 04:08 AM
EG6_TyeR
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000)
1
Oct 15, 2004 12:34 PM




All times are GMT -8. The time now is 05:38 PM.