Picked up an 89 EF...need some help!

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Old Jun 3, 2014 | 01:21 PM
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Wassup guys, picked up an 1989 Honda EF last weekend and have a few questions to ask. This is my first Honda so I dont know much about them. Figure I'll post in one thread since I have a few problems.

Radiator fan is not coming on
Temp and gas gauge does not react/work

Thanks in advance.
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Old Jun 3, 2014 | 01:43 PM
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Radiator fan:
1) Check fuses.
2) Test the fan. Unplug it and hook it directly to the battery. If it spins, then it's good. If not, then it's bad and you need to replace it.
3) On the firewall side of the engine there is a two prong connector near the oil filter. This is a thermo switch. When the water temp gets high enough, then the switch closes. One wire goes directly to ground and the other wire goes to the fan relay. Disconnect the plug and connect the two wires together with a short piece of spare wire, paperclip, ect. Turn the ignition to "ON" (no need to start the car). The fan should be on and running. If it DOES come on, then your thermo switch is bad and you need to replace it.
4) If the fan does not come on, then use a meter and probe both wires from the thermo switch connector and make sure one of them provides connection to ground. If neither of them give you a ground then repair the ground wire - it attaches at the thermostat housing.
5) If one of them does give you ground, then troubleshoot the fan relay by the battery.
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Old Jun 3, 2014 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by 4drEF
Radiator fan:
1) Check fuses.
2) Test the fan. Unplug it and hook it directly to the battery. If it spins, then it's good. If not, then it's bad and you need to replace it.
3) On the firewall side of the engine there is a two prong connector near the oil filter. This is a thermo switch. When the water temp gets high enough, then the switch closes. One wire goes directly to ground and the other wire goes to the fan relay. Disconnect the plug and connect the two wires together with a short piece of spare wire, paperclip, ect. Turn the ignition to "ON" (no need to start the car). The fan should be on and running. If it DOES come on, then your thermo switch is bad and you need to replace it.
4) If the fan does not come on, then use a meter and probe both wires from the thermo switch connector and make sure one of them provides connection to ground. If neither of them give you a ground then repair the ground wire - it attaches at the thermostat housing.
5) If one of them does give you ground, then troubleshoot the fan relay by the battery.
This^^

And for your temp and gas gauge, does your tach work? if it does, you might have to get a different cluster.
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Old Jun 4, 2014 | 04:51 AM
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Does the system have coolant in it? Is the coolant moving ie water pump working?
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Old Jun 6, 2014 | 08:01 AM
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I'll have time to work on it this Saturday so I'll be trying out everything listed here. Thanks!!
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Old Jun 7, 2014 | 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by 4drEF
Radiator fan:
1) Check fuses.
2) Test the fan. Unplug it and hook it directly to the battery. If it spins, then it's good. If not, then it's bad and you need to replace it.
3) On the firewall side of the engine there is a two prong connector near the oil filter. This is a thermo switch. When the water temp gets high enough, then the switch closes. One wire goes directly to ground and the other wire goes to the fan relay. Disconnect the plug and connect the two wires together with a short piece of spare wire, paperclip, ect. Turn the ignition to "ON" (no need to start the car). The fan should be on and running. If it DOES come on, then your thermo switch is bad and you need to replace it.
4) If the fan does not come on, then use a meter and probe both wires from the thermo switch connector and make sure one of them provides connection to ground. If neither of them give you a ground then repair the ground wire - it attaches at the thermostat housing.
5) If one of them does give you ground, then troubleshoot the fan relay by the battery.
So i tried the battery method and the fan works. However I need some clarifying on the thermo switch. I connected the wire with a paper clip, and the fan came on. You mentioned that the fan should come on when the car is turned on with the paper clip connected. Doesnt it mean the thermo switch is good if the fan comes on?
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Old Jun 7, 2014 | 11:19 PM
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No, it means that the thermo switch is bad.
When you bypassed the switch the fan worked. Just like if you removed a light switch in your house and connected the wires together - the light comes on.

By the way, do understand that the fan only comes on when the engine is hot. You said the fan isn't coming on, but since your temp and gas gauge aren't working how do you know if the engine is getting hot enough for the fan to need to work?
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Old Jun 7, 2014 | 11:58 PM
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The thermo switch and temp gauge switch are both bad. The only time I expieriences is with a d15b2 that had overheated and n lown headgasket. The high temp kills tje sensors. Sp aftrr gizn u may alrwady nees a head gasket or valve seal replacement make sure and chevk for burnng oil/water blue/white smoke exhaust. Sorey drunk at clube forbgrammer
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Old Jun 8, 2014 | 06:27 AM
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check the switches on the engine
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Old Jun 10, 2014 | 10:18 PM
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Thanks...everything seems to be in working order now. If anything comes up I'll refer back to this thread.
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