just thought of something....STS related
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just thought of something....STS related
viscous LSD are allowed in STS right? so I could legally put the viscous LSD outta the JDM B18C1 into my car? does anyone know if honda ever put a viscous LSD into the 92 Civic Si? or if the viscous LSD outta said JDM GSR will fit into a 92 civic Si?
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Re: just thought of something....STS related (carl_aka_carlos)
The GCR states "No limited slip differentials are permitted except for factory standard viscous coupler type units."
Since the LSD was not factory standard on the Civic Si, I doubt this would be legal.
Since the LSD was not factory standard on the Civic Si, I doubt this would be legal.
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Re: just thought of something....STS related (carl_aka_carlos)
Nope. JDM ain't legal.
12.4 Standard Part
An item of standard or optional equipment that could have been ordered with the car, installed on the factory production line, and delivered through a dealer <u>in the United States</u>. Dealer-installed options or deletions, except as required by factory directives, no matter how common or what their origin, are not included in this definition. This definition does not allow the updating or backdating of parts.
Good try, though.
12.4 Standard Part
An item of standard or optional equipment that could have been ordered with the car, installed on the factory production line, and delivered through a dealer <u>in the United States</u>. Dealer-installed options or deletions, except as required by factory directives, no matter how common or what their origin, are not included in this definition. This definition does not allow the updating or backdating of parts.
Good try, though.
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Re: just thought of something....STS related (CivicSiRacer)
damnit!! I forgot about that US market crap! oh well....guess I'll just have to run enough spring up front to keep both wheels firmly planted 
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Re: just thought of something....STS related (carl_aka_carlos)
damnit!! I forgot about that US market crap! oh well....guess I'll just have to run enough spring up front to keep both wheels firmly planted
I am going to run an LSD next year and no one will be the wiser. whauuuhaa[Modified by MattG, 7:51 PM 10/30/2002]
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Re: just thought of something....STS related (MattG)
damnit!! I forgot about that US market crap! oh well....guess I'll just have to run enough spring up front to keep both wheels firmly planted
Dude, Carlos, who is going to notice. Run the LSD anyway I am going to run an LSD next year and no one will be the wiser. whauuuhaa
[Modified by MattG, 7:51 PM 10/30/2002]
Dude, Carlos, who is going to notice. Run the LSD anyway
I am going to run an LSD next year and no one will be the wiser. whauuuhaa[Modified by MattG, 7:51 PM 10/30/2002]
<----- slides quaife under table
I could get away with it locally, but I bet someone would notice at the larger divisional/national events....some of those folks are out for blood man!!
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Re: just thought of something....STS related (Fuuma0083)
you'll end up being in Street Modified Class
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Re: just thought of something....STS related (carl_aka_carlos)
damnit!! I forgot about that US market crap! oh well....guess I'll just have to run enough spring up front to keep both wheels firmly planted
Dude, Carlos, who is going to notice. Run the LSD anyway I am going to run an LSD next year and no one will be the wiser. whauuuhaa
[Modified by MattG, 7:51 PM 10/30/2002]
SSSHHHHHH!!!! What are you talking about man?
<----- slides quaife under table
I could get away with it locally, but I bet someone would notice at the larger divisional/national events....some of those folks are out for blood man!!
Dude, Carlos, who is going to notice. Run the LSD anyway
I am going to run an LSD next year and no one will be the wiser. whauuuhaa[Modified by MattG, 7:51 PM 10/30/2002]
SSSHHHHHH!!!! What are you talking about man?
<----- slides quaife under table
I could get away with it locally, but I bet someone would notice at the larger divisional/national events....some of those folks are out for blood man!!
Go for it. Locals are stooges. There is this one guy who has a white integra (runs in SM)..... what a dork....
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Re: just thought of something....STS related (Catch 22)
Go for it. Locals are stooges. There is this one guy who has a white integra (runs in SM)..... what a dork....
Cheaters suck.
Casey, who gives a big
to all cheaters and to those who even joke about cheatingReally.
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Re: just thought of something....STS related (Neo)
Hahaha owned 
I don't get it either. I can understanding not completely knowing the rules, cause admit it the rules can be messed up to a newbie. But for someone who has been autocrossing a couple of events you should know the rules by now and gone over it several times. You can't say to yourself, well it's just a strut bar or it's just an intake and I will never open my hood so no one can see it.
I know others who I've showed them the rule book about 140 treadwear rating (they had Hoosiers in STS) and still argued with me that they were legal.
I don't get it either. I can understanding not completely knowing the rules, cause admit it the rules can be messed up to a newbie. But for someone who has been autocrossing a couple of events you should know the rules by now and gone over it several times. You can't say to yourself, well it's just a strut bar or it's just an intake and I will never open my hood so no one can see it.
I know others who I've showed them the rule book about 140 treadwear rating (they had Hoosiers in STS) and still argued with me that they were legal.
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Re: just thought of something....STS related (CivicSiRacer)
My experience has been that good drivers have no need to cheat.
Put in your LSD (any type) and come out to a VA area autocross and see if Richard West still kicks your butt, or maybe go head to head with the fast Civics...
Scott
Put in your LSD (any type) and come out to a VA area autocross and see if Richard West still kicks your butt, or maybe go head to head with the fast Civics...
Scott
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Re: just thought of something....STS related (celica73)
Oh you have Richard West down there I ran against him when I started getting competitive in 2000 with my brand spanking new Civic Si He owned me by 3 seconds on a 60 second course DOH!
But now I'm about consistently .2 seconds behind Chris Shenefield in his 1989 Civic Si (won Nationals) and I would have been in 3rd place at Nationals That's just dreaming though. I know Nationals is a different animal
I ran against him when I started getting competitive in 2000 with my brand spanking new Civic Si He owned me by 3 seconds on a 60 second course DOH!But now I'm about consistently .2 seconds behind Chris Shenefield in his 1989 Civic Si (won Nationals) and I would have been in 3rd place at Nationals
That's just dreaming though. I know Nationals is a different animal
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Re: just thought of something....STS related (CivicSiRacer)
MattG's comments were kinda aimed towards me.....if you want to split hairs technically I'm a cheater because of my ITR radiator in my RS....are you guys gonna turn me in at nationals? I was told an ITR radiator would bump me out of STS
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