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Old Feb 21, 2014 | 04:21 AM
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I have a 93 si HB non ABS..and since my right front caliper is leaking I figure I'd do a whole upgrade.. I was reading BrakeExpert post to get some info.. so here's my setup

10.3 front rotor with 4 pot Wilwood and 10.2 EP3 rear rotor with type r calipers (goal in mind)

But since money is tight I'm rolling with for now.
10.3 front rotors with GSR or EX calipers
And 10.2 rears with type r calipers.

Since I have a Si. Will I just be able to bolt it all up with little to no modifications. Or will I need a few things.
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Old Feb 21, 2014 | 05:10 AM
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i wouldn't upgrade the rears then.
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Old Feb 21, 2014 | 06:21 AM
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http://store.propartsusa.com/proparts_usa/proparts_usa_integra_brake_kit_upgrade/acura_19942001_integra_brake_upgrade_kit_centric_c tek/i-546983.aspx

Best bang for the buck brake upgrade.

This kit uses 280 mm Mini Cooper rotors and ITR calipers and brackets. It was a direct bolt on zero modification to my EX knuckles.
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Old Feb 22, 2014 | 09:31 AM
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I upgraded my 2000 SI a couple years ago. Love the setup. I found the brake chart here on H/T. You can do a google search for Civic Big Brake Chart. You have to have the SI/EX Spindle. Parts are esy to get part if you break down. Not all small towns carry Wilwood Brake Replacement Parts for a Daily Driver. This setup gave my 11.8" brakes on front and 10.3" brake on rear. I just got new EBC Red Stuff Pads for about $120 total for front and rear. Front rotors are about $55 each (have to be redrilled to 4x100 if using Civic 4 lugs), Front Calipers are about $60 each. Brackets can be found on Ebay and at parts store for $10 to $15 each and my local machine shop charged me $20 to mill 1/8" off them to center the caliper, but brackets came with the calipers I chose below. Put a good set of braided lines and an ITR 1" bore master cylinder on it and your good to go.

For the Fronts:
Caliper Bracket from a 2000 Acura RL (Cardone 14-1416) (Mill 1/8" off the inside mounting pads to center the bracket on the rotor)
Calipers from a 1994 Acura Legend GS Coupe (Raybestos FRC10627 and FRC10628) (dual piston)
Rotors (11.8") from a 2004 Acura RSX-S (Wagner BD126412) (Redrilled for 4x100 bolt pattern)
Pads for a 2000 Acura RL (EBC Red Stuff DP31610C)
SS Braided Brake Lines for a 2000 Civic SI (Goodridge GDR-20021)
Master Cylinder (1" Bore) from a 1998 Acura ITR (Dorman M390473)

For the Rears:
Going to the 10.22" 2003 Civic SI EP3. I am using calipers and brackets from a 2003 Acura RSX. The nice thing is there is no modifications needed ther than using the parking brake bracket of the original calipers.

Calipers and Bracket from a 2004 Acura RSX (Raybestos RC11669 and 11670) (9CLP14S)
Rotors (10.22") from a 2002 Honda Civic SI (Wagner BC126214)
Pads for a 2004 Acura RSX (EBC Red Stuff DP31193C)
SS Braided Brake Lines for a 2000 Civic SI (Goodridge GDR-20021)

Hope this helps. Was considerably cheaper that a Wilwood setup and made me more comfortable since I travel and OEM type parts are more available if I have a problem. Think I did the whole front brake conversion for under $400. Rears were in the #300 range.
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Old Feb 22, 2014 | 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by SamTaylor510
I upgraded my 2000 SI a couple years ago. Love the setup. I found the brake chart here on H/T. You can do a google search for Civic Big Brake Chart. You have to have the SI/EX Spindle. Parts are esy to get part if you break down. Not all small towns carry Wilwood Brake Replacement Parts for a Daily Driver. This setup gave my 11.8" brakes on front and 10.3" brake on rear. I just got new EBC Red Stuff Pads for about $120 total for front and rear. Front rotors are about $55 each (have to be redrilled to 4x100 if using Civic 4 lugs), Front Calipers are about $60 each. Brackets can be found on Ebay and at parts store for $10 to $15 each and my local machine shop charged me $20 to mill 1/8" off them to center the caliper, but brackets came with the calipers I chose below. Put a good set of braided lines and an ITR 1" bore master cylinder on it and your good to go.

For the Fronts:
Caliper Bracket from a 2000 Acura RL (Cardone 14-1416) (Mill 1/8" off the inside mounting pads to center the bracket on the rotor)
Calipers from a 1994 Acura Legend GS Coupe (Raybestos FRC10627 and FRC10628) (dual piston)
Rotors (11.8") from a 2004 Acura RSX-S (Wagner BD126412) (Redrilled for 4x100 bolt pattern)
Pads for a 2000 Acura RL (EBC Red Stuff DP31610C)
SS Braided Brake Lines for a 2000 Civic SI (Goodridge GDR-20021)
Master Cylinder (1" Bore) from a 1998 Acura ITR (Dorman M390473)

For the Rears:
Going to the 10.22" 2003 Civic SI EP3. I am using calipers and brackets from a 2003 Acura RSX. The nice thing is there is no modifications needed ther than using the parking brake bracket of the original calipers.

Calipers and Bracket from a 2004 Acura RSX (Raybestos RC11669 and 11670) (9CLP14S)
Rotors (10.22") from a 2002 Honda Civic SI (Wagner BC126214)
Pads for a 2004 Acura RSX (EBC Red Stuff DP31193C)
SS Braided Brake Lines for a 2000 Civic SI (Goodridge GDR-20021)

Hope this helps. Was considerably cheaper that a Wilwood setup and made me more comfortable since I travel and OEM type parts are more available if I have a problem. Think I did the whole front brake conversion for under $400. Rears were in the #300 range.
I tip my hat to you for being a trial user and posting up information like that
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Old Feb 22, 2014 | 08:24 PM
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Thanks for the info I'll be doing the upgrade in a few weeks.
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Old Feb 24, 2014 | 03:15 PM
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Been on Honda Tech for a number of years. Hadnt been on in a while and my old user name wouldn't work, so..I am a new trial member. At 50 years old I have been blowing up cars 35 years. Havent updated my website in a while, but you can check it out at www.samshomepage.net. Shows the progress of my car up through the latest motor install of "Little John" last January and February of 2013.
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Old Feb 24, 2014 | 03:50 PM
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Another thing you may want to check out. If you are replacing wheel bearings at same time... My 2000 SI does not have ABS. However it does use the bigger bearing of the ABS Integra. Rock Auto and other online companies don't show a difference in their online look ups.
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Old Feb 24, 2014 | 04:42 PM
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I've noticed that.. but 50 years old rolling a Si.. that's awesome that's so going to be me... but ill check out your page
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