Need advise on low idle
I have a Honda civic 1999 its automatic and I have a low idle. In park it idles at around 300-400 in drive it idles about 100 and shakes but once I've driven the car for like 30 mins it idles at about 300-400 in drive. And this is with no load. no ac, lights, defroster, wipers. But when I do turn on my AC it drops instantly to 100 or lower. I already cleaned the IACV using a thread on here. Cleaned throttle body, timing is where its suppose to be. Checked my cap and rotor and plugs there also good, there is no vacuum leak. I'm stumped not sure what else it can be. I'm thinking it may be my PCV valve and hose. Thanks for any input. The First pic is when its in drive at a stop light the second one is in park.
Last edited by tracy209; Feb 20, 2014 at 04:52 PM.
. So i will check my TPS and MAP sensors out tomorrow when I am off. ^^^Good luck to the OP of the thread with your low idle.^^^
i have the p1607 code already because it isnt the stock ecu. so my cel light is always on
thats why it didnt occur to me to check the codes. autozone or pepboys can scan it for free if you dont have a scanner. im sure its an easy fix just a pain in the butt for sure.
thats why it didnt occur to me to check the codes. autozone or pepboys can scan it for free if you dont have a scanner. im sure its an easy fix just a pain in the butt for sure.
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Should be .5v closed throttle and 4.5v wide open
As you open the throttle there should be a linear increase in voltage until its maxed out at 4.5v, if there is any spikes then the tps is bad
raverx3m the car still shakes like hell tho when its at the first line. Miguel613ekb18c is the car suppose to be on or just on the key on position? Thanks for the help
The idle speed is controlled by three methods:
The cold idle value, which is located under the throttle plate. Late model engines may not have the cold idle valve. The valve consists of a air channel bypassing the throttle plate which is blocked once coolant heats up a wax element. When the engine is cold the cold idle valve will allow a lot of air to bypass the throttle plate, and the idle will be around 2000 rpm. As the coolant warms up the cold idle valve will slowly close, bringing the idle speed down.
The idle air control valve (IAC or EACV), which is located on the back of the intake manifold. The IAC valve is a solenoid which is controlled by the ECU using pulse width modulation. Thus the ECU can control how far the solenoid is open and how much air bypasses the throttle plate. There are limits, both upper and lower, to the amount of air which passes through the valve because the solenoid will only work from 20% to 80% duty cycle.
The throttle air bypass screw, which is located in the top of the throttle body. Unscrewing this will allow more air to bypass the throttle plate, and so will increase the idle speed. The purpose of the bypass screw is to adjust the amount of air going pass the throttle plate so that the IAC valve duty cycle is within the limits of what the ECU can control. The manual tells you how to adjust this screw by unplugging the IAC valve.
Looks like last resort it to replace iac valve
The cold idle value, which is located under the throttle plate. Late model engines may not have the cold idle valve. The valve consists of a air channel bypassing the throttle plate which is blocked once coolant heats up a wax element. When the engine is cold the cold idle valve will allow a lot of air to bypass the throttle plate, and the idle will be around 2000 rpm. As the coolant warms up the cold idle valve will slowly close, bringing the idle speed down.
The idle air control valve (IAC or EACV), which is located on the back of the intake manifold. The IAC valve is a solenoid which is controlled by the ECU using pulse width modulation. Thus the ECU can control how far the solenoid is open and how much air bypasses the throttle plate. There are limits, both upper and lower, to the amount of air which passes through the valve because the solenoid will only work from 20% to 80% duty cycle.
The throttle air bypass screw, which is located in the top of the throttle body. Unscrewing this will allow more air to bypass the throttle plate, and so will increase the idle speed. The purpose of the bypass screw is to adjust the amount of air going pass the throttle plate so that the IAC valve duty cycle is within the limits of what the ECU can control. The manual tells you how to adjust this screw by unplugging the IAC valve.
Looks like last resort it to replace iac valve
You can adjust the screw next to the throttle body plate. As long as your tps is within specs, it wont cause any problems or bring the CEL on.
Is there a test to check my IACV? I disconnected the connector that goes to the iacv and the rpms went up to about 1500 and I turned on my ac came down to about 1100 after a couple seconds dropped down but then went back up. Bad IACV?
you can ohm it out with a multimeter. should show 0.00 with a .05 variance. is the little screen on it dirty?
oh, my car was idling low because the FPR needed to be adjusted. good luck!
oh, my car was idling low because the FPR needed to be adjusted. good luck!
Good news guys figured out my problem. I went out and bought some feeler gauges and I adjusted my valves and a couple intake valves and exhaust valves were really tight when the piston was at tdc. Now it idles like its suppose to.
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