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Old Jan 22, 2014 | 05:16 PM
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I spun a rod bearing in my stock Y7 so I bought another used one that passed some tests with flying colors.

I got the old engine out, left the transmission in it and left everything else around it intact including the engine harness. Basically, I just need the new complete block to be lowered, bolted and plugged back into the harness.

I have all the fluids, a hydraulic engine lift and bolts organized for the swap, just need someone to actually do it.

What kind of $$$ should I look to spend to have someone do this for me? I'm not going to a shop but I know a handful of people who can do it for me in my driveway.

Before someone says to do it myself, I know a bit about my Honda but not this much to be doing this lol

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Old Jan 22, 2014 | 06:27 PM
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If YOU got the old engine out I don't understand how YOU couldn't do it yourself.
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Old Jan 22, 2014 | 06:30 PM
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so you removed the engine without knowing how to put the new one in ?


civic owner logic.

op they're probably not going to be to "happy" to finish your project so I'd say 500+$ range.
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Old Jan 22, 2014 | 06:37 PM
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If YOU got the old engine out I don't understand how YOU couldn't do it yourself.
Originally Posted by B_Swapped93
so you removed the engine without knowing how to put the new one in ?


civic owner logic.

op they're probably not going to be to "happy" to finish your project so I'd say 500+$ range.
lol, I wrote it up too fast and left out a detail. It was me and a mechanic friend of mine. He did the removal for free but didn't want to be bothered with the install.
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Old Jan 22, 2014 | 06:54 PM
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buy me a 30 pack of miller high life and i will help you out.
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Old Jan 22, 2014 | 06:56 PM
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He did the removal for free but didn't want to be bothered with the install.

can you borrow his tools ? it's really not hard but a lift is near mandatory.
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Old Jan 22, 2014 | 06:56 PM
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buy me a 30 pack of miller high life and i will help you out.
Hah, it's funny you say that because I bought my friend one of them mini-kegs by Heineken for doing it for me.

In all seriousness though, it should be easy as hell since literally everything else is still in place and it's the same engine so if anyone around the Miami area wants to help out for some cash, hit me up.
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Old Jan 22, 2014 | 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by B_Swapped93
can you borrow his tools ? it's really not hard but a lift is near mandatory.
I could borrow all the tools really but I don't have any way to get it onto a lift it's pretty stationary right now
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Old Jan 22, 2014 | 07:02 PM
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I could borrow all the tools really but I don't have any way to get it onto a lift it's pretty stationary right now
Sorry I mean a hoist(engine hoist) it's really basic after that, "Ericthecarguy" has 3 vids of a 6th gen civic engine removal look it up and stud it.
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Old Jan 22, 2014 | 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by B_Swapped93
Sorry I mean a hoist(engine hoist) it's really basic after that, "Ericthecarguy" has 3 vids of a 6th gen civic engine removal look it up and stud it.
Ohhh, yeah, my neighbor has one he lets me use. It's a really damn nice one too. Has a leveler on it and all. Maybe I could try it myself but I'm not so sure about hooking it up to the tranny. Everything else looked fairly easy except attaching it to the transmission.
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Old Jan 22, 2014 | 07:11 PM
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but I'm not so sure about hooking it up to the tranny. Everything else looked fairly easy except attaching it to the transmission.
It's a pain and ever worse with Solid mounts, take the trans off and attach it while the engine is out.
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Old Jan 22, 2014 | 07:22 PM
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buy me a 30 pack of miller high life and i will help you out.
Get me that and I'll do a j swap for you
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Old Jan 23, 2014 | 01:35 AM
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I always put them in from underneath, but that was with the trans and engine together
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Old Jan 23, 2014 | 05:44 AM
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I always put them in from underneath, but that was with the trans and engine together
When we removed it, he wanted to do it all that way but we didn't have the proper tools to attempt it. The hardest part was actually physically getting the engine out. It was hitting everything.
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Old Jan 23, 2014 | 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Sccacivic1997
Get me that and I'll do a j swap for you
Wasn't there a guy on this forum who swapped a J series into his EJ1? That ****** had gobs of torque and was very fast for being so light weight.
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Old Jan 23, 2014 | 06:54 AM
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Wasn't there a guy on this forum who swapped a J series into his EJ1? That ****** had gobs of torque and was very fast for being so light weight.
Yea quite a few ppl on here have done it. I wanna do it too eventually, would be a nice dd lol
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Old Jan 23, 2014 | 07:37 AM
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My last engine install went like this:

Engine/head/transmission all seperated. No hoist available.

1) Me and friend picked up by hand my block fully assembled and placed it into the engine bay. Car was jacked up and supported before hand.

2) With wood on a floor jack, we lifted the block onto the jack by hand for support then manipulated the block so as to install the driver's side mount to the car while keep the block supported by the jack.

3) By hand, we slid the transmission from underneath and mounted it to the block while the block was slightly angled downward but still supported by the jack.

4) While supporting the block/transmission by hand, we slid the jack with the piece of wood to support the transmission side and then jacked it up to mount the passenger's side mount.

5) Installed head and misc mounts and tidbits, manifolds, etc.

I'm assuming that you are installing the engine as a whole (block/head) but since you have access to the hoist, I'd say drop the transmission and mount it to the block. Then install everything at once like "B_Swapped93" suggested. At the very least I'd drop the transmission and move it to the side so that you can lower just the block/head with the hoist while having a bit more room so that you don't knock things around so much but then you may have a more difficult time installing the transmission (not really bad but it's infinitely easier to do outside of the car).

Typically though I do it all going underneath the car like "HondaPartsHero" stated.
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