How do I convert my rear brakes from drums to disks?
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How do I convert my rear brakes from drums to disks?
My rear brakes are bad and i'm planning on upgrading them to drilled and slotted brakes. Is it a long process or fairly simple.
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Re: How do I convert my rear brakes from drums to disks?
Drilled and slotted rotor??? Why??? Looks I assume be cause they won't make braking any better. In fact worst due to removing surface area.
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Re: How do I convert my rear brakes from drums to disks?
With all parts in hand, the job is fairly straight forward. Removing the e-brake cables can be a pain though.
Re: How do I convert my rear brakes from drums to disks?
I have a question relates to the topic, what would be a better disk swap? Getting a JDM Civic SIR including, trailing arms, disk, spindles and calipers or A USDM GSR swap including all the same parts.
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Re: How do I convert my rear brakes from drums to disks?
because over heated brakes dont work and they worp. With drilled and slotted, it cools the brake rotors. True, it does reduce surface area but the cooling effect over comes the tad bit of lost surface area.
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Are you driving your Civic Sedan on a track where brake heating is an issue? Sure drilled/slotted rotors run cooler but are structurally weaker and believe it or not wear out faster and are even subject to cracking. Your pads may last a little longer due to running cooler but your rotors won't. The swap to rear disc isn't too difficult. I did it on my 97 Hatch last year. Just grab trailing arms complete with spindles, calipers, etc. You'll need new brake lines, the fittings on the drum setup are different and you'll also need e-brake cables. I'm not sure which once fit the sedan the best. The 99/00 si (SiR in Canada) e-brake cables were an absolute perfect fit for my hatch. Some people say you need the swap out the proportioning valve as well. I kept my stock one and have had no issues. If memory serves, the prop valve part numbers are the same for the Si and every Civic of that era.
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Re: How do I convert my rear brakes from drums to disks?
Want to take a guess what I run on my race car???
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No it doesn't. Drilled and slotted rotors where once used to expell the gasses given off from brake pads. Materials are different and no longer give off the gasses they use to. Drilled rotors are structurally weaker and more prone to cracking. If you feel you must go for looks, stick to slotted rotors.
Want to take a guess what I run on my race car???
Re: How do I convert my rear brakes from drums to disks?
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For now, the facts.
Common Interchangeability questions:
* 90-01 Integras (except the Type-R) and 88-00 Civics with rear disc brakes are all interchangeable onto any EK, EG, EF, DA, and DC Chassis.
* Integra rear disc spindles, compared to civic drums, are 7lbs heavier (per side of course.) Civic spindles with discs weigh less, but I don’t know how much.
* EK9 and DC2 take the same front and rear brake pads and rotors, so if you spent a ****-load of cash on a CTR 5-lug suspension/brake swap, there’s your replacement parts.
* Legend/Vigor caliper ARE similar to the Prelude/Integra-R/Civic-R calipers, though since the Legend/Vigor had the caliper on the back, swap them left to right to keep the bleeder pointing up during bleeding.
* The Civic 88-00 EX rotor is the 10.3" rotor on all EX model Civics from 88-00 and the same rotor found on Integras 90-01 (exc. Type-R).
* DA and DC calipers are NOT the same.
* 94-96 Integras ALL take the SAME front and rear caliper, rotor, pads. WHY people think the GSR has better brakes I don’t know.
* 94-01 Integras and 97-01 ITRs use the same knuckle, and same wheel bearing.
* 98-01 Integra GSR and ITR models use a 1" Master Cylinder, the same as from a 97-01 Prelude, and will bolt onto the 96-00 Civic stock master cylinder and hardlines with no bending of brakelines, and the fluid resovoir is the same.
* 96-00 Civics, all LHD Civics, take the same brake booster. The 99 Si and 96 CX both take the same brake booster; from a RHD 96-00 Civic chassis, the brake booster still is the same cept the brake booster vacuum port is on the other side.
Modified by Redline96LX at 6:15 PM 2/16/2006
Common Interchangeability questions:
* 90-01 Integras (except the Type-R) and 88-00 Civics with rear disc brakes are all interchangeable onto any EK, EG, EF, DA, and DC Chassis.
* Integra rear disc spindles, compared to civic drums, are 7lbs heavier (per side of course.) Civic spindles with discs weigh less, but I don’t know how much.
* EK9 and DC2 take the same front and rear brake pads and rotors, so if you spent a ****-load of cash on a CTR 5-lug suspension/brake swap, there’s your replacement parts.
* Legend/Vigor caliper ARE similar to the Prelude/Integra-R/Civic-R calipers, though since the Legend/Vigor had the caliper on the back, swap them left to right to keep the bleeder pointing up during bleeding.
* The Civic 88-00 EX rotor is the 10.3" rotor on all EX model Civics from 88-00 and the same rotor found on Integras 90-01 (exc. Type-R).
* DA and DC calipers are NOT the same.
* 94-96 Integras ALL take the SAME front and rear caliper, rotor, pads. WHY people think the GSR has better brakes I don’t know.
* 94-01 Integras and 97-01 ITRs use the same knuckle, and same wheel bearing.
* 98-01 Integra GSR and ITR models use a 1" Master Cylinder, the same as from a 97-01 Prelude, and will bolt onto the 96-00 Civic stock master cylinder and hardlines with no bending of brakelines, and the fluid resovoir is the same.
* 96-00 Civics, all LHD Civics, take the same brake booster. The 99 Si and 96 CX both take the same brake booster; from a RHD 96-00 Civic chassis, the brake booster still is the same cept the brake booster vacuum port is on the other side.
Modified by Redline96LX at 6:15 PM 2/16/2006
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Re: How do I convert my rear brakes from drums to disks?
Remove the trailing arms from the donor car with the emergency cable, hub, and caliper attached. You may need to swap out the brake lines too. I believe the drum has a shorter line than the caliper. You can take your chances with the donor's brake pads and rotors but starting with a fresh set is best. The proportioning valve from the donor's car will allow you to use more rear braking power as well.
With all parts in hand, the job is fairly straight forward. Removing the e-brake cables can be a pain though.
With all parts in hand, the job is fairly straight forward. Removing the e-brake cables can be a pain though.
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Re: How do I convert my rear brakes from drums to disks?
I think a better upgrade compared to drilled/slotted rotors, is find a way to get some fresh air ducted to the vents on the front discs. Ive seen a few people that managed to get air directed to the inner hub area where the vents pull air from. Of all things that seems like it would cool them better
I was dealing with heat fade on my integra calipers and rotors about half way through my runs do I upgraded to ITR calipers using Mini Cooper rotors. They have none of the heat fade I was dealing with
Re: How do I convert my rear brakes from drums to disks?
There is no difference. RS/LS/GS/GS-R are all the same. The Type R has the 5 lugs.
Here's everything everyone on this thread needs to know: CLICK HERE
Cliff notes for the lazy:
FAQs from the Honda Civic/Del Sol (1992 - 2000) forums with a list of every DIY you'll ever need and so much MORE! FAQs DIY
Enjoy.
eH.
Here's everything everyone on this thread needs to know: CLICK HERE
Cliff notes for the lazy:
FAQs from the Honda Civic/Del Sol (1992 - 2000) forums with a list of every DIY you'll ever need and so much MORE! FAQs DIY
Enjoy.
eH.
Thank you sir, the info is appreciated.
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Absolutely. A cheap method of improving braking capabilities. Unfortunately I am using my fog light to route cool air to my intake so this wasn't a option right now.
I was dealing with heat fade on my integra calipers and rotors about half way through my runs do I upgraded to ITR calipers using Mini Cooper rotors. They have none of the heat fade I was dealing with
Luckily I have the 90-91 bumper so I moved my horns and im going to use that for my brake ducts. I only got brake fade once, and that was on a mountain braking from 100-30. Even after several minutes of cool down driving they were glowing hot and smoking.
Other methods of cooling the brakes for better performance are heatsinks. Theres a company that makes heatsink shims that go between the pad and calipers that do a lot of good, but they dont make them for integras.
The cooper rotors as about an inch larger than the stock teg ones right?
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Re: How do I convert my rear brakes from drums to disks?
2007-2009 Mini Cooper NON type S are 280mm. That's 11.0xxxx inches. It's a bolt on rotor with an ITR caliper and bracket. They work perfect on my eg.
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