Alright so I was wondering on a few things. I have a 91 accord, 5 speed coupe, F22a4. My bud owns a performance shop here in colorado (Dont want to drop names), but he has given me some stuff to turbo my accord that he had lying around for years im sure.
Any ways he was telling me that Vtec D16 valve springs are the same springs the F22 uses. I am having a Delta 262 cam ground for this too. I just want someone to just say they have done this before. Also I was just going to use 450 injectors from a dsm for fuel, and a 14B or T3 turbo. Hondata300v2 too..
Also anyone run a better intercooler pipe from the turbo to the intercooler other then through where the powersteering cooler runs through the rad support? ANy input? Dont tell me "Buy this or buy that" I could care less whats better and far from what I am doing. I have done a few diffrent civic and crx builds, just this is my first accord turbo. I actually really like my accord and the sohc in it, I have a built and sleeved H22 sitting in my garage so no I dont want to swap a h22. Just stay on topic. But this was my gramps accord he bought new so everything is in awsome shape (Garaged all its life) I know it was never abused ever.

 

I drilled a hole in the side of my chassis for my intercooler piping. You have to take a guess on where to drill, and grind from there. But it looks great none the less and will allow you to have a larger intercooler. Hell, mine is massive. lol But you may have some issues with your injectors, they seem small for your power goals. I currently run an Evo 560cc pink-top injector with my boosted setup 235whp~9psi.

 

So is that an Ebay turbo kit? Whatever your name is.

 

That's Generic 2.5" piping and a Generic 2.5" intercooler both purchased off of craigs, and my manifold is a cast log manifold with a 38mm wastegate port/T3 flange. Everything else that actually matters is either legit or custom fab'd. 90% of ebay turbo kits are junk, hence the reason I purchased everything over a period of time.

 

Forgot what site I was looking at but I saw a kit for $2699.00, it might have been a turbonetics kit.

 

Good parts! Turbonetics stuff is awesome, very reliable and performs extremely well. eBay turbo's, wastegates, BOV's, and seals are all complete junk.

 

is ebay reliable for those mentioned parts above or not? if yes then what shall i do for it now?

 

I already said they were junk? eBay CAST!! Manifolds are good, and piping and intercoolers are basically universal. Any other turbo or metering component are junk.

 

I figured 450's would be ok for around 260-280 max. I mean stock h22 are 280cc injectors making 220 at the crank. Even 180whp would still be alot of fun next to my 140. Sucks, I have tons of stuff for a B series and H motors, but this is my first F series motor. I would still like to hear if the D16 springs will work, I trust my bud as he has been building hondas for 15 years. Just wanted to see if anyone else has done this, I can get some new Crower vavle springs for like 60 bucks.


Also is there a diffrence in flow between the A1 heads and A4 heads, or it just exhaust port location? The manifold is a nice butt weld log manifold and is super nice, but I think its for the close port A1 head. Not a big deal as I would love to pull the head and rebuild or replace it and possibly throw some new rod bearings and oil pump on and Possibly do a balance shaft delete too.

 

What's wrong with the OBX aluminized steel manifold. I talked to the sellers they said its a 2.5" downpipe. Seems good to me, plus its lighter than the cast stuff. Probably flows better too.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/OBX-TURBO-HEADER-DOWNPIPE-90-93-HONDA-ACCORD-2-2L-F22-/370271721036?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item5635ea164c&vxp=mtr


That particular manifold has 17 sold and 51 watchers. Tells me they're doing something right with them.


By the way how much did you spend all in all to turbo your Accord? How much was the tune?

 

You obviously haven't done any research on any of the stainless stuff ebay puts out. They're junk and everyone over in FI will tell you that. Cast is durable as hell because it has an extremely high melting temperature. I paid somewhere around $1500 for my entire setup and tune with tons of more room for upgrading the motor internally for larger horsepower and torque goals. Hence the reason you don't buy cheap OBX junk and either go cast, go professional grade, or fabricate your own.

 

Yeah I see what you mean but I've been reading and some have gotten luck with them and have lasted 3+ years with them.

The tune cost you how much? Reliable power on stock internals is hard to come by without a good tuner, I would be willing to turbocharge my F series if only I had an extra engine in case I blows mine up. But money is also an issue, don't have a lot of it, if I had the H22 that would be a more reliable choice and cheaper... And NA too.

Here's some wisdom from the creator of Cb7Tuner.com about boosting stock internals:

http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/showpost...0&postcount=13


People over there were saying that in the end if you want to boost any stock Honda block you gotta get forged interals eventually or you will blow the **** up. So forced induction anything is going to cost a lot if you want it to last.

 

Yes, the only manifold I would use off ebay is a cast iron. I would like some info if there is any about the d16 valve springs into the F22.

 

my advice on the ebay stuff is stay away from them.
i'm boosted with a f22b1 putting down 250hp in an autotragic.
u can get away with using the intercooler, piping and cast manifold from ebay, thats its. all the other stuff that really matters should be good quality parts. which in turn means u will spend money on those parts. but u can search craigslist or the for sale threads for used parts that are still quality parts, for about half the price of brand new.
when i was piecing together my kit i made sure that i bought quality parts and it took me over a year to get everything. also another thing is to get an electronic boost controller and turbo timer. also a quality a/f gauge, bov and w/g.
there are alot of knock-offs floating around ebay and they look almost legit.

OBX tend to crack at the welds and leak.
i went with a log style and had them fab up a custom 3 inch straight out the back to a vibrant 3" in&out
i never heard of the valve springs from a D16 to work on an F22. i wouldnt try it though, u wouldnt want to float a valve and bend it. i bought all my engine internals from Bisi.
if u wanna see my set-up check out my intro
https://honda-tech.com/forums/introduce-yourself-162/my-intro-tired-lurking-3163199/

u never said what ur friend has given u to boost ur accord.

 

Sorry it took so long to get back. My bud gave me the cleanest CRX, with power windows and old school Dohc ZC. Its my new drag car... Anyone want to buy a CRX shell with OBD0-OBD1 Conversion and all the body work re done. Welded in new metal, and body work done correctly (just needs fenders). HAHAHA.. Just though I would throw that out there...

So anyways... I wouldnt be worried about floating a valve just binding of the springs. Anyways, He has give me a nice Log manifold scdl 40 stainless, A t3 of some sort and I already had a tial wastegate, tial blow off, S300, and DSM injectors, and some precision 660's. I have a nice stock pile of parts over the last couple years and over deployments. My friend, who I trust and have known since we were in jr high said that they fit and I dont doubt him, just seeing really if there is anyone else out there running the springs?

 

The only sure fire way to be certain is to compare them. Sounds like you have a good setup on your hands! Jelly of the S300.

 

I think I may just have to do that, I am picking up a f22 for 100 bucks in good shape. I only need the head tho, this car was my gramps and never reall has seen over 4k rpms since new... well till I got it. Ya my buddy hooks it up, I have a couple s300 laying around from diffrent builds going on. I get them for cheap as he has the best hook up and knows alot of people. He was the creator of the Gates blue belts, then sold it to Gates... I know its true as I know a few people over at gates and have done a few comercials for them. Oh if anyone goes to SEMA this year and checks gates booth, they should have a black and grey Accord V6... I painted that... Look on the crank pulley, theres a part of my thump print on it.