hey all'z. I have some questions regarding what I should do with my rebuilt engine and 5 speed swap. I thought about turboing but I think not now. Money is also a constraint as of now so the NA route would be most affordable, not to mention the most reliable.

What would I have to do in order to tune it? Phearable.net told me that a dyno tune would be my best bet and that a chippable ECU is $179. They didn't tell me what I needed to do really, I don't know how to go about getting the tune done.

Do I have to order to chipped ECU and then take it to a dyno shop?

 

Is it OEM rebuild?

11: 1 compression ?

15: 1 compression + forged aluminum rods?

more information!

stock rebuild just keep the stock tune.. why make hassles for yourself.

 

It is an 0.50 oversize rebuild. The head was milled down to make it flat so I'd imagine a little more compression was added from stock. The P12 ECU gives it nice power but a tune would be better. I was told by GhostAccord that anytime you add more air a tune will increase the power. I have an H23 intake on it with the butterflies delited.

 

Just go get a damn tune? Chipped P28 ECU on Crome. They can tune it just like any other vehicle. N/A or Boost. If Phearable told you to buy an ECU and take it to a tuner than buy an ECU and take it to a tuner. Or, just a thought, do your damn research. For the millionth time.

 

I really want to know how much its gonna cost to tune it. How much did it cost you and what was the method that you used to tune?

That would help if you could just tell me from your own experience.

 

Call a local dyno shop.

Problem solved.

 

What's a good price to pay for everything, I don't wanna get ripped off.

I didn't buy the ECU from Phearable yet.

 

Generally ranges from 275-400$

but seriously, get off your ***, talk to some locals and see the opinions of the shops around and get to calling. I can't tell you who the best tuner in your town is can I?

 

I got it. I was reading about these places such a Phearable.net that can custom load a basemap onto a chipped ECU. I was wondeing WHY you can't just leave it at that without having to go to a dyno. The question was asked,

"Can I run my vehicle on a basemap & not worry about it?:

No matter how good the basemap, every forced induction or heavily built motor should be dyno & or street tuned by an experienced tuner to ensure engine safety. "





Are they just trying to make it harder than it actually is? I mean its not like I have turbos and crazy **** like that, just OS pistons with bolt on's.

Maybe if I had turbo's and high compression I'd be worried about "engine safety" but c'mon. These accord engines have low compression anyways.



What do you guys think/know about this, do I have to go to a dyno after installing the ECU with custom basemap? I'm a poor person mind you, it'd be way more affordable If I didnt' have to.

 

If you're a poor person, you better keep on saving or get out of the game.

Basemaps should be used for startups and pre-tune drives. No engine is 100% the same so you should get it dialed in properly. Another thing to mention is, for the sake of safety and compatibility most basemaps are set rich. Guess what that means, fuel economy in the *******, I bet the money you spend on gas after a while will add up untuned won't it?

If it's a From-the-Factory map then so be it, go ahead. Otherwise, I say no, tune the damn thing and reap the benefits instead of harvesting the losses.

 

Okay. So I think I know what I'm gonna do. Go ahead and order the pre loaded ECU, test it out to see how it works whether I lose gas etc. If it doesn't work right then all I would have to do is take it to a dyno shop and have them use Crome or whatever to make it right... right?

I'm going to have to buy the chipped ECU anyways so there's no harm in seeing if the ECU by itself doesn't work.


Makes sense to me.


EDIT:

By the way I'm not "poor" its just I don't wanna pour all my money into tuning my car. I like to save money for more important things like food and shelter and whatnot.

 

Sacrifices must be made if you really want something....

 

BAse map isnt for tooling around town.. Its ment to just take it to the dyno

 

So you mean usually the tune has to be adjusted on a dyno after the preset ECU is installed?

 

He's saying what I said, it's to get you started up and to the dyno/tuning.

 

Okay, simple enough. I just wanna know if anyone has ever run with just a basemap before with a good enough preset. I'm sure someone has. Where are you going to find the best preset is the question.

If i'm going to take it to the dyno what additional hardware will i need, nothing? I heard something about needing Crome of Hondata to tune the ECU, I figure the shop would have that.

 

Stop and think about this for a second, you really ask some serious 'middle-school' questions without doing any type of critical thinking on the back end.

How many people in the world do you think have your exact same motor, transmission, ECU, exhaust, intake, injectors, plugs, cams, pistons, head, valves, header, IM, etc as you do?

How many of those people are using the exact same tuning solution you want to?

How many of those people used the same tuner as you?

If you answer those questions honestly it's going to be none of those people. A basemap will let you hobble the car around at low RPM's to take it to get properly tuned. And in all actuality, a basemap is likely going to be a near stock ECU tune maybe with more fuel dumped in.

You also need to call local tuners to see their preferred method of tuning, not everyone is going to want to work with Crome or HonData. How about you READ over this section a few times before posting anything

https://honda-tech.com/forums/engine-management-tuning-124/

Then re-evaluate what you're asking and trying to do.