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Short-Ram or Cold-Aire?

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Old May 1, 2013 | 03:28 PM
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Default Short-Ram or Cold-Aire?

I've done the research. But I'm interested in testimonials. Who likes what. Which gives better performance. Which bolsters fuel economy. My D16Y8 is virgin so I want the beef. I'm keen to Dragon and K&N. Or is that cliche? Whats good? Or should I go to O'Reilly's and build one out of parts like I did for the '98 Acura?
I'm sure everyone knows that an engine is basically an air pump. A Cold-Aire will develope better top-end power and more horses by taking air from outside the engine block. They also have longer piping which allows air flow to come in at a higher rate.
With Short-Ram intakes the distance the air travels to the cylinder is shorter giving a better throttle response. I am more interested in the various "brand names" and how they stack up against each other. Who has better shorts, who has better colds, etc.

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Old May 1, 2013 | 03:54 PM
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Default Re: Short-Ram or Cold-Aire?

neither one will give you any actual power gains, just keep it stock. If you want to see any actual power gains you need to boost or engine swap to a B, H or K.
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Old May 1, 2013 | 03:57 PM
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aire ?

the short ram will make your car a bit louder and possibly more throttle response but NO REAL gain with simple ad ons with a d series
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Old May 1, 2013 | 04:17 PM
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I'm sure everyone knows that an engine is basically an air pump. A Cold-Aire will develope better top-end power and more horses by taking air from outside the engine block. They also have longer piping which allows air flow to come in at a higher rate.
With Short-Ram intakes the distance the air travels to the cylinder is shorter giving a better throttle response. I am more interested in the various "brand names" and how they stack up against each other. Who has better shorts, who has better colds, etc.
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Old May 1, 2013 | 04:20 PM
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Default Re: Short-Ram or Cold-Aire?

I'm partial to K&N for Cold-Aire.
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Old May 1, 2013 | 04:57 PM
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Default Re: Short-Ram or Cold-Aire?

Just get one off ebay it's a d16y8...you won't be making any real gains anyway.
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Old May 1, 2013 | 04:57 PM
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Default Re: Short-Ram or Cold-Aire?

Air doesn't have an E in it, for starters. The primary point here, and what you need to understand, is there is absolutely no benefit to be had from an intake, period. They're all bling factor. Get whatever you decide to get. You don't live in CA, so there's no reason to get a name brand. Get a cheap tube off eBay, and a K&N filter, and call it a day.
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Old May 1, 2013 | 05:00 PM
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Default Re: Short-Ram or Cold-Aire?

Originally Posted by Skelley1980
I'm sure everyone knows that an engine is basically an air pump. A Cold-Aire will develope better top-end power and more horses by taking air from outside the engine block. They also have longer piping which allows air flow to come in at a higher rate.
With Short-Ram intakes the distance the air travels to the cylinder is shorter giving a better throttle response.
What kind of power do you think you're going to make? Don't spend that kind of coin that will do nothing much for power but will everything to make your car louder, shift the powerband and lighten your wallet.

You've obviously bought into the marketing hype.
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Old May 1, 2013 | 05:06 PM
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If you're too sucked into the marketing hype go with short ram, but the money could be better spent.

I blew 120 bucks on a AEM sri for my d16z6 back in high school. Then I learned something about cars and put my factory airbox back on. I could have gained the +0 hp for a lot cheaper than choosing AEM, name brands get ya everytime.

Buy a comptech icebox or ARC intake box or leave it stock.
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Old May 1, 2013 | 05:12 PM
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Default Re: Short-Ram or Cold-Aire?

Originally Posted by civics4lyfe

Buy a comptech icebox or ARC intake box or leave it stock.
NOT worth it ! if he could even find an ARC box it would be more than the engine it's self this is a y8 after all.
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Old May 1, 2013 | 05:51 PM
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Default Re: Short-Ram or Cold-Aire?

mine whistles..lol.

k&n tube with a spectre filter.


Edit:

Just seen this is for a d series. My advice is to boost or swap. Or put the intake on and be done with it as a dd. The d is not worth the money you might dump into it unless you boost. Good motor tho.

https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-civic-del-sol-1992-2000-1/gonna-build-my-d-dont-hate-please-3139658/
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Old May 1, 2013 | 05:57 PM
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Default Re: Short-Ram or Cold-Aire?

Originally Posted by dseriesboulder
The d is not worth the money you might dump into it unless you boost. Good motor tho.
So you've finally learned...lol since your "im gonna build my d" thred
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Old May 2, 2013 | 04:59 AM
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stock
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Old May 2, 2013 | 05:07 AM
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Default Re: Short-Ram or Cold-Aire?

Remove all the airbox crap from behind the bumper, cut 1-2 large holes in the bottom of the airbox and drop a K&N filter in it, cheap intake upgrade. Dont expect any extra power from a D series.
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Old May 2, 2013 | 06:02 AM
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Default Re: Short-Ram or Cold-Aire?

just replace stock air filter with k&n stock air filter replacement and you will have more air entering the motor just like you want, you don't really need a aftermarket air filter and pipes if you keeping the car as a stock application
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