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Old Apr 20, 2013 | 06:57 PM
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Default af ratio leans out after warm start

its a H22 turbo running on HondataS300 w/ aem wideband. like the title says after the car warms up and i turn it off to put gas or something the af ratio climbs to lean and stays there for a while. it will go down sooner if i drive it but the af ratio still stays high for a minute or 2. cold starts are fine though.
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Old Apr 20, 2013 | 11:12 PM
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Default Re: af ratio leans out after warm start

Its heat soak in the injectors. After a warm start if you rev to 2k for a few seconds does it go away?
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Old Apr 22, 2013 | 11:34 AM
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Default Re: af ratio leans out after warm start

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Its heat soak in the injectors. After a warm start if you rev to 2k for a few seconds does it go away?
No not entirely, nor right away
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Old Apr 22, 2013 | 07:00 PM
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Default Re: af ratio leans out after warm start

How lean are we talking about?
What is the number?
And where is the sensor mounted at?
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Old Apr 24, 2013 | 09:03 AM
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Default Re: af ratio leans out after warm start

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How lean are we talking about?
What is the number?
And where is the sensor mounted at?
Guage reads 16,17,and --- so very lean. The sensor is monted about 10 inches from the outlet afterba c bend. I know it should be closer but space was an issue. I have no prolems with readings other then this or when in closed loop the af ratio woul climb to 10 when im at a steady speed (Freeway driving). Btwim in open loop right now.
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Old Apr 24, 2013 | 09:30 AM
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Default Re: af ratio leans out after warm start

does it run ok?

an AFR that lean, you will feel it running that lean most times as it can hesitate, buck...etc from wanting more fuel. on the flip side, an AFR that rich will be felt as well. You will get a bogging feeling from overfueling.
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Old Apr 24, 2013 | 10:06 AM
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Default Re: af ratio leans out after warm start

The ECT and IAT compensations probably just need to be properly adjsuted, or set back to stock if they have been adjusted improperly.
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Old Apr 24, 2013 | 11:26 AM
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Default Re: af ratio leans out after warm start

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The ECT and IAT compensations probably just need to be properly adjsuted, or set back to stock if they have been adjusted improperly.
x2. Most likely add fuel to the low load or idle IAT table.
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Old Apr 24, 2013 | 12:26 PM
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Default Re: af ratio leans out after warm start

Originally Posted by Spunkster
The ECT and IAT compensations probably just need to be properly adjsuted, or set back to stock if they have been adjusted improperly.
Actually that does help just have to fine tune it. Im just concerned cause it gets very hot here in vegas. And yes it runs poor when the af ratio reads lean
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Old Apr 24, 2013 | 12:39 PM
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Default Re: af ratio leans out after warm start

Post start trims could be off as well.
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Old Apr 28, 2013 | 11:42 AM
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Default Re: af ratio leans out after warm start

Originally Posted by 98vtec
Post start trims could be off as well.
Post start is only for cold starts
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Old Apr 29, 2013 | 03:41 PM
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Default Re: af ratio leans out after warm start

kinda sound like cylinder wash. try revving it up to 2k and killing it if you plan on hot starting. should leave enough oil in there to hold compression.

If you're in closed loop with your wideband you may want to wait until it warms up before you turn it, or just take the lazy route and add more fuel to your high load idle range.

I've had problems hot starting with soggy ignition in the high load idle range also, you might consider adding a few degrees.
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Old May 7, 2013 | 10:00 AM
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Default Re: af ratio leans out after warm start

Originally Posted by VegasInvasion
kinda sound like cylinder wash. try revving it up to 2k and killing it if you plan on hot starting. should leave enough oil in there to hold compression.

If you're in closed loop with your wideband you may want to wait until it warms up before you turn it, or just take the lazy route and add more fuel to your high load idle range.

I've had problems hot starting with soggy ignition in the high load idle range also, you might consider adding a few degrees.
Cylinder wash is when the car run overly rich not lean. Correct?
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Old May 8, 2013 | 09:43 AM
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Default Re: af ratio leans out after warm start

yes, but the wash can happen at cranking or at shut down, which doesn't reflect what's on your wideband.
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