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Old Apr 19, 2013 | 06:07 AM
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Default GSR turbo not making power, turbo gurus please look.

Ok so a friend of our was being dynotuned last night. Didnt make any power and we were kinda stumped. Personally I think its the Typer Cams/ InlinePro t3.

Heres the basics , let me know what you guys think.

Gsr
9:5.1 Cp
eagle rods

Full oem itr head. Cams/im/tb/casting

Inline Pro T3
Precision 6262 turbo
Tial 38mm
2.5" intercooler piping
Precision 600whp fmic
Precision 1000cc injectors
3" downpipe
Neptune ecu

Ok so the car on 18-19lbs made 370 whp. The weird thing is the car was already making 355 on 10 lbs. So we checked timing and compression both perfect. Any ideas on what it may be? Again im hearing alot about the cam/manifold combination.
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Old Apr 19, 2013 | 06:53 AM
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Default Re: GSR turbo not making power, turbo gurus please look.

If you are referring to the inline pro log manifold, yes that is the issue. I actually had a VERY similar issue with almost the exact setup. Was runnin a b18c5 itr motor 10:1 compression, sc61 turbo with inline pro manifold, the setup just flat out didnt work, the guy tuning my car said that between the cams and ported head it was trying to flow more then the manifold could handle and was causing "reversion". Basically he said the air wasnt escaping fast enough and getting trapped. I switched to a full race ramhorn and made 436 the next week.
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Old Apr 19, 2013 | 07:34 AM
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Yeah, he said hes going to get a nice ramhorn/topmount and retune. Just sucked we were expecting much more then that.
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Old Apr 19, 2013 | 07:46 AM
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Default Re: GSR turbo not making power, turbo gurus please look.

friend of mine made 510 on an inline pro with gsr cams and 9:1...
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Old Apr 19, 2013 | 08:22 AM
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friend of mine made 510 on an inline pro with gsr cams and 9:1...
See the guy that tuned my car also made over 500 onthat manifold with gsr cams and uported head. He claimed my problem was the aggresive cams and ported head that was causing the problem with the mani. Not sure, im def no guru thats basicall what i was told. But a tubular manifold did help my problem.
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Old Apr 19, 2013 | 10:37 AM
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Default Re: GSR turbo not making power, turbo gurus please look.

I was told the same thing by Tony at T1. He said the spoolin performance log was killing me with the Type R cams.
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Old Apr 19, 2013 | 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by 1lowek2007
If you are referring to the inline pro log manifold, yes that is the issue. I actually had a VERY similar issue with almost the exact setup. Was runnin a b18c5 itr motor 10:1 compression, sc61 turbo with inline pro manifold, the setup just flat out didnt work, the guy tuning my car said that between the cams and ported head it was trying to flow more then the manifold could handle and was causing "reversion". Basically he said the air wasnt escaping fast enough and getting trapped. I switched to a full race ramhorn and made 436 the next week.
There's that nasty word again. I wonder.......
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Old Apr 19, 2013 | 11:22 AM
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The T3 manifolds like this one and other cast logs and tubular logs are restrictive. More aggressive cams dont always do very well with them. The inline pro t4 manifold on the other hand has been used up to 900hp and flows well but thats T4. Go with GSR cams or get different manifold and will be fine. GSr cams will still make plenty of power just take more boost to do so.
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Old Apr 23, 2013 | 09:35 PM
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This is some good info.. Thanks!
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Old Apr 25, 2013 | 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Dark_Teg
He said the spoolin performance log was killing me with the Type R cams.
please don't let David (CaliforniaDad) know that his engine isn't supposed to be making 560


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Old Apr 25, 2013 | 01:24 PM
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please don't let David (CaliforniaDad) know that his engine isn't supposed to be making 560
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Old Apr 25, 2013 | 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by B and B
please don't let David (CaliforniaDad) know that his engine isn't supposed to be making 560

Lol, nobody is saying that his power is impossible. Do you think this is a rule and not an exception? Two setups here are not the same. There is no black magic at work. If you have a good flowing, bigger cammed motor matched up to the wrong log and turbo combo it will not work. Calidad found a better combination and was able to extract good power from his setup. The specific data to support these types of conclusions is very rarely obtained, however the front runners in drag racing like tony may know a thing or two about it. Or someone who has tuned a lot of cars with a huge variety of different setups.
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Old Apr 25, 2013 | 08:04 PM
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Calidad found one of the only combinations his cylinder head would allow. That was evident.
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Did't know that about the cam diff"s with logs...
learned something new on HT..
But did nothing else change/degrade since the last dyno?
I'd just grab some gsr's like suggested and not have to change dp, drain, dump, maybe wg
Holla if he wants to sell the inline pro for a crackhead price after getting that nice topmount.
Is the ILP stainless by chance?
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Old Apr 25, 2013 | 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by B and B
please don't let David (CaliforniaDad) know that his engine isn't supposed to be making 560


Please inform me as to why my engine should not be making the power?
Gaaawd thats an old picture...**** even when I look at it, that log mani looks so small and wimpy, But Hey Jack,,500+whp isnt so bad
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Old Apr 25, 2013 | 09:43 PM
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I think you are misunderstanding his point. You DID make the power, the previous conversation was about certain cam/manifold combos not working very well. Maybe you know about this?
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Old Apr 25, 2013 | 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by 30lb_EM1
Ok so a friend of our was being dynotuned last night. Didnt make any power and we were kinda stumped. Personally I think its the Typer Cams/ InlinePro t3.

Heres the basics , let me know what you guys think.

Gsr
9:5.1 Cp
eagle rods

Full oem itr head. Cams/im/tb/casting

Inline Pro T3
Precision 6262 turbo
Tial 38mm
2.5" intercooler piping
Precision 600whp fmic
Precision 1000cc injectors
3" downpipe
Neptune ecu

Ok so the car on 18-19lbs made 370 whp. The weird thing is the car was already making 355 on 10 lbs. So we checked timing and compression both perfect. Any ideas on what it may be? Again im hearing alot about the cam/manifold combination.
how much more fuel was it wanting with the extra boost? it should of wanted a ton more, but if 18-19lbs was only making 15more whp with a 6262 something is way wrong, and what do you mean By "Timing And Compression Both Perfect"??? whats perfect?
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Old Apr 25, 2013 | 09:53 PM
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Yeah I know..I'z just playing. The edlebrock's seem to love my setup right now. I am however looking into some type of Mini-Ram that will allow for P/S and full size radiator.
Wink Wink
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Old Apr 25, 2013 | 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by TheShodan
Hey Mac, I sent you 2 emails??? Needs the rundown on my turbo again please!
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Originally Posted by CaliforniaDad
Yeah I know..I'z just playing. The edlebrock's seem to love my setup right now. I am however looking into some type of Mini-Ram that will allow for P/S and full size radiator.
Wink Wink
Lol, now you are talking.
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