Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000) EG/EH/EJ/EK/EM1 Discussion

How to remove outer tie rod and dust boot?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jan 14, 2013 | 09:20 PM
  #1  
AMS_'s Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 53
Likes: 0
Default How to remove outer tie rod and dust boot?

1992 Civic DX Sedan D15B7. Front passenger side.

Name:  Rov4s.jpg
Views: 927
Size:  394.3 KB

Now if you can't tell which axle is the one that needs to be replaced, it's the one with tape around the boot. Lol. I just bought this car, and someone tried to tape up a broken CV boot.

So how do I get it out? Do I need a special tool? What does that hose do? There's another thicker hose I marked in the picture that was just disconnected like that. Should it be hooked up somewhere?

Name:  8UofW.jpg
Views: 1353
Size:  402.0 KB

Do I need a ball joint or is that a bearing? I don't know what either of those things I just said are.
Reply
Old Jan 14, 2013 | 09:22 PM
  #2  
doood's Avatar
been there done that
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 11,885
Likes: 3
From: earth
Default Re: How to remove and install CV axle?

that is not an axle. that is your tie rod.
Reply
Old Jan 14, 2013 | 09:30 PM
  #3  
AMS_'s Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 53
Likes: 0
Default Re: How to remove and install CV axle?

Originally Posted by doood
that is not an axle. that is your tie rod.
YEAH!

I don't know what anything is...
Reply
Old Jan 14, 2013 | 09:39 PM
  #4  
jbpnoman's Avatar
B*a*n*n*e*d
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 6,420
Likes: 7
From: Charlottesville, VA, USA
Default Re: How to remove and install CV axle?

You need to replace the tie rod end, as well as the tie rod boot.
Reply
Old Jan 14, 2013 | 09:49 PM
  #5  
AMS_'s Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 53
Likes: 0
Default Re: How to remove and install CV axle?

So how do I get the tie-rod out?
Reply
Old Jan 14, 2013 | 09:51 PM
  #6  
jbpnoman's Avatar
B*a*n*n*e*d
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 6,420
Likes: 7
From: Charlottesville, VA, USA
Default Re: How to remove and install CV axle?

You shouldn't have to replace the entire tie rod...

The tie rod end is screwed on. The boot is clamped on. You WILL need an alignment IMMEDIATELY afterwards.
Reply
Old Jan 14, 2013 | 09:58 PM
  #7  
AMS_'s Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 53
Likes: 0
Default Re: How to remove and install CV axle?

Originally Posted by jbpnoman
You shouldn't have to replace the entire tie rod...

The tie rod end is screwed on. The boot is clamped on. You WILL need an alignment IMMEDIATELY afterwards.
How come? I thought because the boot is broken and dirt has gotten in, it can ruin it. A new tie rod is $16. Do I need a tie rod puller tool?
Reply
Old Jan 15, 2013 | 05:21 AM
  #8  
belairbrian's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 409
Likes: 2
Default Re: How to remove and install CV axle?

The boot covers the INNER tie rod if it was open for awhile it very well may need replacing. The outer tie rod is the section outside the boot you loosen teh jam nut then it just threads off.

Don't see the need for a tie rod end puller now since the tie rod is already out of the steering knuckle.

If you are changing the inner, at this point cut the boot away and remove the entire assembly. The inner comes of using open end wrenches. Then get an inner tie rod, outer tie rod (as yours looked spent) and the boot (may come with the inner). Reinstall and take to an alignmnet shop.

The alignment is neccessary to set the tie rod length (toe in/out).

As for the hose it appears to be the air transfer hose. As one boot compresses the other is expanding, the hose allows air to move between them to prevent expansion and collapse.
Reply
Old Jan 15, 2013 | 05:21 AM
  #9  
kyden's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 6,883
Likes: 4
From: CT
Default Re: How to remove and install CV axle?

because your tie rod is what most of what your alignment is based on (toe). unless your inner tie rod is bad also, you don't need the tool.
Reply
Old Jan 15, 2013 | 06:23 AM
  #10  
Former User's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 45,214
Likes: 59
Default Re: How to remove and install CV axle?

Thread title edited.

Originally Posted by AMS_
Now if you can't tell which axle is the one that needs to be replaced, it's the one with tape around the boot. Lol.
If the steering rack is not leaking fluid from the boot, then you can just replace the boot after the bad outer tie rod is removed.

If the steering rack is leaking fluid into one or more of the boots, then you need to replace the rack to fix the leak.

Last edited by Former User; Jan 15, 2013 at 09:14 AM.
Reply
Old Jan 15, 2013 | 06:25 AM
  #11  
Former User's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 45,214
Likes: 59
Default Re: How to remove and install CV axle?

Originally Posted by belairbrian
As for the hose it appears to be the air transfer hose. As one boot compresses the other is expanding, the hose allows air to move between them to prevent expansion and collapse.
Actually, the hose pointed to in the picture is the drain hose from the A/C evaporator.
Reply
Old Jan 15, 2013 | 06:48 AM
  #12  
AMS_'s Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 53
Likes: 0
Default Re: How to remove and install CV axle?

You guys are awesome. I'm going to use string and a tape measure to do my alignment! That's how they did it horse and buggy days! I might get some white out and mark the old alignment, but of course I'll have no idea what I'm marking so that's good.

Saw a video on youtube. The outer tie rod screws out like a screw! Then there's an adjusting nut for toe. Pretty cool. COTTA PIN.

Last edited by AMS_; Jan 15, 2013 at 07:09 AM.
Reply
Old Jan 15, 2013 | 08:09 AM
  #13  
AMS_'s Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 53
Likes: 0
Default Re: How to remove and install CV axle?

Is there an alternative to using an inner tie rod removal tool? Do I need to replace my inner tie rod? The boot was absolutely busted, and someone tried to tape over it, but there's grease and oil all over everything down there. Maybe it just needs a cleaning? I don't know, what should I do?

Name:  C7vas.jpg
Views: 747
Size:  323.0 KB
Reply
Old Jan 15, 2013 | 08:12 AM
  #14  
Former User's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 45,214
Likes: 59
Default Re: How to remove and install CV axle?

Clean and grease the rack end. Install the boot and reconnect the air hose. Install the outer tie rod, and re-install everything else. Get a professional wheel alignment.
Attached Images  
Reply
Old Jan 15, 2013 | 08:16 AM
  #15  
Former User's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 45,214
Likes: 59
Default Re: How to remove and install CV axle?

Originally Posted by AMS_
there's grease and oil all over everything down there.
Originally Posted by RonJ@HT
If the steering rack is leaking fluid into one or both boots, then you need to replace the rack to fix the leak.
Reply
Old Jan 15, 2013 | 08:59 AM
  #16  
AMS_'s Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 53
Likes: 0
Default Re: How to remove and install CV axle?

The rack isn't leaking I don't think. The grease and oil is from the busted CV boot I believe.

So I don't need to remove my inner tie rod with a long special tool to clean or replace it? Thanks for the diagram. That is amazing.
Reply
Old Jan 15, 2013 | 09:05 AM
  #17  
Former User's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 45,214
Likes: 59
Default Re: How to remove and install CV axle?

Originally Posted by AMS_
The rack isn't leaking I don't think. The grease and oil is from the busted CV boot I believe.

So I don't need to remove my inner tie rod with a long special tool to clean or replace it? Thanks for the diagram. That is amazing.
The dust boot for the steering rack is different than the CV boot. The term CV is reserved for the axle boots. Or are you saying that the axle CV boots are busted and throwing their grease?

If the inner tie rod is not excessively loose, then I don't see a reason to replace it.
Reply
Old Jan 15, 2013 | 09:21 AM
  #18  
AMS_'s Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 53
Likes: 0
Default Re: How to remove outer tie rod and dust boot?

Yeah sweet! The rubber boot around the inner tie rod was the one that was busted, and I'm pretty sure that's where all the grease came from. All the other boots are fine.

I always thought if a boot was busted, dirt can come in and ruin the part. But I don't know anything. So I should just grease up and slide a new boot over the inner tie rod?

Should I replace my outer tie rod, or just buy the little bushing thing that was busted as well? http://www.autozone.com/autozone/par...mString=search

I guess my main question is clean and replace boots? or remove and replace the inner and outer tie rods? How do you know when your tie rods are bad?
Reply
Old Jan 15, 2013 | 09:27 AM
  #19  
belairbrian's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 409
Likes: 2
Default Re: How to remove and install CV axle?

Originally Posted by RonJ@HT
Actually, the hose pointed to in the picture is the drain hose from the A/C evaporator.
You are correct. My description is for the hose attached to the torn boot. I didn't see the arrow in black.
Reply
Old Jan 15, 2013 | 09:27 AM
  #20  
Former User's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 45,214
Likes: 59
Default Re: How to remove outer tie rod and dust boot?

You need to replace the outer tie rod. You also need to replace the inner tie rod if it is loose.

Clean the inner tie rod before greasing and installing the new dust boot. Also remember to reconnect the air hose to the boot.

I'm pretty sure I'm repeating myself.
Reply
Old Jan 15, 2013 | 09:28 AM
  #21  
Former User's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 45,214
Likes: 59
Default Re: How to remove and install CV axle?

Originally Posted by belairbrian
You are correct. My description is for the hose attached to the torn boot. I didn't see the arrow in black.

I thought the same thing you did until I looked more closely.
Reply
Old Jan 15, 2013 | 04:13 PM
  #22  
jbpnoman's Avatar
B*a*n*n*e*d
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 6,420
Likes: 7
From: Charlottesville, VA, USA
Default Re: How to remove and install CV axle?

Originally Posted by AMS_
You guys are awesome. I'm going to use string and a tape measure to do my alignment! That's how they did it horse and buggy days! I might get some white out and mark the old alignment, but of course I'll have no idea what I'm marking so that's good.
The horse and buggy days also saw top speeds of 5 MPH...
Reply
Old Jan 15, 2013 | 05:13 PM
  #23  
angrysmileyface's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,075
Likes: 9
From: Sumter, SC, USA
Default Re: How to remove outer tie rod and dust boot?

I remember using a large standard open ended wrench to do mine. I had torn boots, and did the tie rod ends both inner and outer as they were sloppy after 20 years.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
PolyPill
Acura Integra
1
Jul 20, 2009 02:14 PM
vinuneuro
Suspension & Brakes
9
Jul 29, 2008 01:57 PM
mxl360
Honda Accord (1990 - 2002)
4
Aug 22, 2007 11:58 AM
JDMtype Eg6
Tech / Misc
2
Jan 24, 2007 12:32 PM
THE LORD OF CHAOS
Acura Integra
11
Nov 6, 2005 11:12 AM




All times are GMT -8. The time now is 08:36 AM.