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Old Nov 18, 2012 | 06:47 AM
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Default Replacing headgasket on my b18c5 - copper spray or no?

Why or why not?
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Old Nov 18, 2012 | 06:52 AM
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OEM or Cometic gasket? OEM yes, Cometic no
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Old Nov 18, 2012 | 07:06 AM
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Default Re: Replacing headgasket on my b18c5 - copper spray or no?

Here you go, from FI section.

Originally Posted by TheShodan
If its another cometic headgasket, then NO, you do not use Copper spray on those. Even the staff at Cometic recommend you NOT use the Orange copper spray. OEM, yes. Cometic, no.
Originally Posted by rich7777
They come pre coated with a .001 "Viton" coating.
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Old Nov 18, 2012 | 07:35 AM
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Default Re: Replacing headgasket on my b18c5 - copper spray or no?

noob question but whats the purpose of the copper spray?
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Old Nov 18, 2012 | 07:49 AM
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I have built countless honda engines over the years and have never used copper spray... Never had any issues n2o, boost or n/a.

^ The copper is supposed to fill in any imperfections in the head and deck surface giving a better seal. But this is what the outer layer of the headgasket is for.
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Old Nov 18, 2012 | 08:56 AM
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Default Re: Replacing headgasket on my b18c5 - copper spray or no?

does honda use copper spray from the factory? nope. Why would you need it?
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Old Nov 18, 2012 | 09:48 AM
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Default Re: Replacing headgasket on my b18c5 - copper spray or no?

I used it with an oem itr rebuild with no issues - on recommendation from a friend.

This time I'm wondering if it's really necessary.

I'm going to look in the helm manual, but iirc there's no mention there of any need for it.

I was just wondering what you guys have done.
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Old Nov 18, 2012 | 03:21 PM
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i've never used any copper spray and have done over 7 oem head gaskets no problems.
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Old Nov 18, 2012 | 04:15 PM
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I have never used copper spray.
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Old Nov 18, 2012 | 04:35 PM
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Copper spray is a band aid that should never be used. If the head or deck is damaged to require the use of this crap then get it surfaced and do things correctly. Im so tired of people pushing the use of copper spray.
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Old Nov 20, 2012 | 01:25 PM
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Blew a head gasket with oem gasket and it had been sprayed, replaed with oem without spray and it's going strong 5 years later.

Bottom line: DONT USE COPPER SPRAY!

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Old Nov 20, 2012 | 03:14 PM
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I've rebuilt 3 ITR engines... Not a single one have I used the copper spray and none have any head gasket type related issue to this day...
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Old Nov 21, 2012 | 07:48 AM
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copper spray
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Old Nov 21, 2012 | 12:43 PM
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I don't see the benefit of copper gasket. If the mating surfaces are cleaned properly and one is using a new headgasket from a quality manufacturer, there is no need.
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Old Nov 21, 2012 | 05:10 PM
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Default Re: Replacing headgasket on my b18c5 - copper spray or no?

lot of folks don't deck the block and only do the head. spray can help prevent seepage if you have scratched surfaces.

as others have stated if you just do it right there is no need
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Old Dec 1, 2012 | 12:05 PM
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I use it because it makes everything look shiny like gold..
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Old Dec 1, 2012 | 06:16 PM
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No
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Old Dec 2, 2012 | 10:03 PM
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My buddy and I have used it on his gsr n/a build, his Ls-vtec build, and my slow D series build. Used it on the head gaskets, exhaust manifold gaskets, and intake manifold gaskets. Only reason why I use it is just because of how tacky it gets after spraying it on the gasket. To me, it makes for a "better safe than sorry" seal between the two surfaces.
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Old Dec 6, 2012 | 07:26 PM
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Default Re: Replacing headgasket on my b18c5 - copper spray or no?

Ive used copper spray and not. makes no difference on sealing ability.
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Old Dec 7, 2012 | 10:06 AM
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Default Re: Replacing headgasket on my b18c5 - copper spray or no?

No for any type of HG. If the block and head have the proper surface, an untouched new gasket will seal just fine.
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Old Dec 7, 2012 | 03:35 PM
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Default Re: Replacing headgasket on my b18c5 - copper spray or no?

I have used it on every motor I have built regardless of decking/milling or not.

I have never had an issue related to a HG, ever.

Good article here on it: http://www.motoiq.com/magazine_artic...-and-more.aspx


Blowing a HG had nothing to do with copper gasket spray, more likely incorrect installation. Speak facts, not BS..
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