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Old Oct 20, 2012 | 07:20 PM
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Hey guys i have an 99 em1 with an ls turbo swaped in-place of the b16. But lately i have been thinking of going back to an n/a motor. So was wondering what would be the best way to go on a motor. I was thinking of just going back to the b16 and adding a few mods to that. or would i be better off getting a better motor?
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Old Oct 20, 2012 | 07:21 PM
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so you want to be slower?
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Old Oct 20, 2012 | 07:49 PM
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right now im mostly wanting to have a car better for daily driving, and being in texas having no a/c sucks. But what ever i do im looking to make 200whpish. Car is making 230 whp on the turbo, so wouldnt be that much of a drop.
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Old Oct 20, 2012 | 07:55 PM
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Drive down to FL and ill swap my EM1's B16 with your LS
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Old Oct 20, 2012 | 08:06 PM
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Why not get an AC compatible manifold?
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Old Oct 21, 2012 | 05:12 AM
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Default Re: 99 em1/ls turbo - swap in a n/a motor?

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Why not get an AC compatible manifold?
I though about it, just when im looking at fitment, i can see room for the compressor but not room for the condenser.
Heres a pic of the engine bay to show what i mean.
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Old Oct 21, 2012 | 01:49 PM
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what part of texas are you from?
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Old Oct 21, 2012 | 02:03 PM
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put a gsr with b16 head and type r cams (poormans type r)
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Old Oct 21, 2012 | 02:46 PM
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Default Re: 99 em1/ls turbo - swap in a n/a motor?

Originally Posted by jestin91
put a gsr with b16 head and type r cams (poormans type r)
What type of horsepower would that build make roughly ?
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Old Oct 21, 2012 | 04:23 PM
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Default Re: 99 em1/ls turbo - swap in a n/a motor?

Originally Posted by C_Rock77
Why not get an AC compatible manifold?
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Old Dec 20, 2012 | 02:36 PM
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Im in Texas, I have a em1 k24a2 and I still dont use AC. I just roll the windows down and enjoy the breeze. Temp in Texas is easily any where from 30 to 70ish degrees. I honestly would keep the LS Turbo. You will miss it once it is gone I promise.

If you still want to get rid of the LS Turbo I know some people that would be interested.

P.S. Im located @Ft Hood
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Old Dec 20, 2012 | 02:39 PM
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AC compatible manifold....

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Old Dec 20, 2012 | 03:00 PM
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Default Re: 99 em1/ls turbo - swap in a n/a motor?

In this case, it's not the manifold that's the problem, it's the turbo. I have the same manifold style on what is basically a modified T25, and it fits just fine. That looks like it might be a GT60. The snail is probably WAY too big for the engine, and is obviously too big for the engine bay.
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Old Dec 20, 2012 | 06:14 PM
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Default Re: 99 em1/ls turbo - swap in a n/a motor?

if he pointed the inlet the opposite direction, you would have room for AC.

you only have a cheap ebay manifold anyways, so either way ~ replace the manifold or turn the turbo around and POOF! A/C compatible!

and also you can mount your rad and your reservoir the correct way when you swap
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Old Dec 20, 2012 | 06:18 PM
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Default Re: 99 em1/ls turbo - swap in a n/a motor?

He'll also either need to get a new dump tube fabbed, or run without it.
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Old Dec 20, 2012 | 06:20 PM
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Default Re: 99 em1/ls turbo - swap in a n/a motor?

and downpipe will need re-fabbed.. still alot cheaper then swapping in another engine.
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Old Dec 20, 2012 | 06:25 PM
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Default Re: 99 em1/ls turbo - swap in a n/a motor?

Also, even flipping the compressor side won't solve the problem. It looks like the exhaust side of the turbo is too big. Like I said, looks like a GT60. Way too big for that motor.
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Old Dec 20, 2012 | 07:29 PM
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na its a precision t3/t4. But I said screw it and haven't done anything. But yes the rad and the over flow are mounted like crap. Just haven't cared to mount them to look correct.
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Old Dec 20, 2012 | 07:33 PM
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Default Re: 99 em1/ls turbo - swap in a n/a motor?

t3/t4 doesnt tell us what size the turbo is.

a 50/57 trim will fit on pass side with a little shaving.

either way, its doable and alot cheaper then switching out the whole engine
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Old Dec 21, 2012 | 12:28 PM
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its a 57 trim, totally forgot to add that in.
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Old Dec 24, 2012 | 05:08 AM
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Default Re: 99 em1/ls turbo - swap in a n/a motor?

Originally Posted by jbpnoman
Also, even flipping the compressor side won't solve the problem. It looks like the exhaust side of the turbo is too big. Like I said, looks like a GT60. Way too big for that motor.
uh.. no. it looks like your ordinary run of the mill t3/t4 combo.
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