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93 Del Sol Si - power windows don't work and window fuses don't get voltage

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Old Jul 5, 2012 | 05:19 PM
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Icon2 93 Del Sol Si - power windows don't work and window fuses don't get voltage

So I am trying to get the windows to go up and down. The control module checked out to be fine. All fuses and relays are good under the hood. When putting power to the harness plug the rear, and passenger work.

The interior fuse box has problems. Most of the ignition side fuses are not getting power. Specifically all fuses relating to the power windows.

Does anyone know how to fix this?

There is no engine or ECU in this car.
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Old Jul 5, 2012 | 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by JC_1118
Most of the ignition side fuses are not getting power. Specifically all fuses relating to the power windows.
Which specific fuses are you talking about? Post pictures. Dash fuses get voltage only when the key is in ON(II).

Are the grounds for the power window circuit connected?
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Old Jul 5, 2012 | 06:35 PM
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Default Re: 93 Del Sol Si interior fuse box

Hi Ron,

Where would the ground be located? The fuses that are not getting power are #'s 5,7,8,13,15.
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Old Jul 5, 2012 | 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by JC_1118

Where would the ground be located?
Passenger front engine bay, two in left dash, and floor harness in cabin.

The fuses that are not getting power are #'s 5,7,8,13,15.
Fuses 5, 7, and 8 only get voltage when the window relay is activated. This is probably a relay ground problem (see above).

Check whether fuses 13 and 15 are blown.
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Old Jul 6, 2012 | 05:55 AM
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Thanks again. The fuses are not blown. Would not having the ECU have anything to do with this? Also where does the power come from into the interior box? Is it direct from the battery, under hood fuse box?

I'll check the grounds tonight. Is there anything else that would affect this? What about power from the ignition? Also I remember seeing a grey connector not plugged into anything.

I'll take pics tonight of it.
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Old Jul 7, 2012 | 02:09 PM
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Not sure if this helps, but I was having the same problem. None of my windows worked. I purchased a new window module, replaced the drivers switch and bought a window motor and my windows still wouldn't work. All of my fuses were good inside and out. My dome light didn't work, my trunk light didn't, and my aux lights didn't. So finally I got up the nerve to take it to the honda place this past week and they said that power wasn't coming from my fuse box, so I would have to replace that....I ordered it but it hasn't come yet. When I install it I will let you know the results.
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Old Jul 7, 2012 | 02:20 PM
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Hi jshine,

That's good information to know. Some fuses in the interior box are getting power, but others are not. When I ran power directly into the driver side window harness, I was able to get the rear window to go up and down. I ran power into the passanger harness, and it also worked. The drivers window did not work.

So you ordered a new interior fuse box?
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Old Jul 7, 2012 | 03:21 PM
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Did you test the relay and whether it get voltage and ground? If your approach to fixing car problems is to avoid doing any tests and rather to replace parts randomly, then you're on the right track.
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Old Jul 7, 2012 | 03:38 PM
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Default Re: 93 Del Sol Si - power windows don't work and window fuses don't get voltage

Hi Ron,

I have not yet tested the relay, are you talking about the one in the fuse block?
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Old Jul 7, 2012 | 03:43 PM
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Test whether the relay gets voltage and ground. Also test the relay.





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Old Jul 7, 2012 | 03:49 PM
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Default Re: 93 Del Sol Si - power windows don't work and window fuses don't get voltage

Ron,

Let me just say you are awesome!! I really appreciate your help and direction.
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Old Jul 8, 2012 | 12:46 PM
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Hi jshine,

That's good information to know. Some fuses in the interior box are getting power, but others are not. When I ran power directly into the driver side window harness, I was able to get the rear window to go up and down. I ran power into the passanger harness, and it also worked. The drivers window did not work.

So you ordered a new interior fuse box?





Yes I order a fuse box, it should b here tomorrow. But I had the same problem my windows would roll up n down when it was jumped with a wire. Some of my fuses don't work either. Do you hear a clicking noise behind the radio??? If so your window module is good.
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Old Jul 9, 2012 | 04:45 AM
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Default Re: 93 Del Sol Si - power windows don't work and window fuses don't get voltage

Yes, the module does click. Let me know how you make out after replacing the fuse box.
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Old Jul 10, 2012 | 09:39 AM
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Default Re: 93 Del Sol Si - power windows don't work and window fuses don't get voltage

Any luck?
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Old Jul 16, 2012 | 11:04 AM
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Nope sorry it still didn't work, idk what's going on.
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Old Jul 17, 2012 | 08:08 AM
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Default Re: 93 Del Sol Si - power windows don't work and window fuses don't get voltage

Jshine,

Thanks for the update. I am replacing mine tonight. I took out the gauge cluster and found a ground wire coming out of a harness,not connected. I also found a blue wire that was cut, I am re soldering it as well.

I'll take pics and post. Don't get discouraged, it's probably something dumb.

I have no engine or ECU, I am in the process of re doing the interior, new carpet, seats, plastics. This window/fuse box issue is holding me up
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Old Jul 17, 2012 | 12:47 PM
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Default Re: 93 Del Sol Si - power windows don't work and window fuses don't get voltage

i can send you some wiring diagrams if you need one just pm me.
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Old Jul 21, 2012 | 02:41 PM
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Default Re: 93 Del Sol Si - power windows don't work and window fuses don't get voltage

For anyone who reads this,

After replacing the fuse box, fuses, relays and double checking the groundwires, I still had no power to the windows/mirrors. I then checked the connection of the harness plugs that go through the rubber boot in the driver side door. That was the issue, the plugs were not securely connected!!!

I would like to thank Ron for his help with trouble shooting this issue. ON to my next step in this rebuild.
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Old Mar 31, 2021 | 10:29 PM
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Default Re: 93 Del Sol Si - power windows don't work and window fuses don't get voltage

Hello,

I have the same problem with my Sol. Can you be specific what wiring connection it is.

Here's to crossing my fingers that you still have the car.

Good luck to me!
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Old Mar 31, 2021 | 10:33 PM
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Default Re: 93 Del Sol Si - power windows don't work and window fuses don't get voltage

Originally Posted by anonimogo
i can send you some wiring diagrams if you need one just pm me.
Would you still have the wiring diagrams please?

I am suffering from the same issue.

Any help would be truly appreciated please!

Thanks a lot!
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Old Apr 30, 2021 | 07:00 AM
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Default Re: 93 Del Sol Si - power windows don't work and window fuses don't get voltage

I’m having the same issue and my cluster and turn signals aren’t working either I’m stumped
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