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Old Jun 20, 2012 | 01:26 PM
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Default 01 ITR not getting spark.

I have a 2001 ITR no mods whats so ever.
I pulled it up in my drive way to vaccum it out and so i did. And now it wont start.. It was really low on gas. so i thought it was empty, so i added some gas and still nothing. I found out it has no spark ! so i checked all fuses, i checked the coil and even replaced it with a new one. dizzy cap and rotor and wires are pretty new. im getting plenty of fuel pressure.. I have no clues thanks for any help.
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Old Jun 20, 2012 | 07:19 PM
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I dont remember if the immobilizer controls that or the fuel, is green key light lighting up?
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Old Jun 20, 2012 | 07:24 PM
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Default Re: 01 ITR not getting spark.

do you have 12v to to the dizzy?
what do the points on your coil read?
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Old Jun 21, 2012 | 03:59 AM
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Default Re: 01 ITR not getting spark.

If you have no spark, check the voltage at the distributor.
Also check for the green light shaped like a key as 94rs-turbo mentioned.
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Old Jun 21, 2012 | 08:12 AM
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Default Re: 01 ITR not getting spark.

the green key light is coming on.

and how do i check the voltage at the distributor ?
i know how to check the coil and see if it has the correct voltage, and that is good.
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Old Jun 21, 2012 | 10:22 AM
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Default Re: 01 ITR not getting spark.

Is the coil you replaced it with known to be good? Brand new doesn't always mean good.

The ICM might have decided to take a dump. They usually give a sign of a eratic tach before they go out.
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Old Jun 21, 2012 | 10:38 AM
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Default Re: 01 ITR not getting spark.

it was brand new. I even checked the old one and it tested to be good, so i just took a shot in the dark on buying a new one.

Nothing was wrong with my tach be before it worked perfect..
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Old Jun 21, 2012 | 10:52 AM
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Default Re: 01 ITR not getting spark.

Originally Posted by njmad
the green key light is coming on.

and how do i check the voltage at the distributor ?
i know how to check the coil and see if it has the correct voltage, and that is good.
When you're trying to crank the engine over the green key light doesn't flash right?
It just comes on and goes away, correct?



When you check the distributor for power use this:



You can see which wires are power and which wires are ground.

Also, doesn't your car have a crank speed sensor in the oil pump?
How are you checking fuel pressure?
Are you just listening to the fuel pump?
Did you check your coil feed wires with a light bulb (with a load) or just a meter?
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Old Jun 21, 2012 | 11:06 AM
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Default Re: 01 ITR not getting spark.

if youre not getting voltage at the distributor,then you need to check the ignition switch or the main relay..or possibly the ecu..

if you are getting voltage to the distributor,then you need to look at distributor internals..cas or tdc sensors are probably the cause if you have already replaced the icm and coil..try a friend's known working distributor and see if it helps..
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Old Jun 21, 2012 | 11:08 AM
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Default Re: 01 ITR not getting spark.

yes it comes on then goes away.
I do not think it has a speed sensor in the oil pump, never heard that before.
i checked fuel pressure with a guage!
i just checked it with a meter!, with the key on. no light buld no load
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Old Jun 21, 2012 | 12:03 PM
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Default Re: 01 ITR not getting spark.

Originally Posted by njmad
yes it comes on then goes away.
I do not think it has a speed sensor in the oil pump, never heard that before.
i checked fuel pressure with a guage!
i just checked it with a meter!, with the key on. no light buld no load
Ok. If your green key light is not blinking you can rule out the anti-theft.

The TDC sensor is in the oil pump housing. #14
Like so:



Even if this is bad, your car should still start. It would just have a CEL for a TDC code.


Try testing the coil power wires with a small light. If it doesn't light it, but it shows 12v with the meter, then the wire is bad. I've had that happen plenty of times. Try taking a picture or a video of your tests.
Also, how much fuel pressure did you have?
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Old Jun 21, 2012 | 12:19 PM
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Default Re: 01 ITR not getting spark.

i had like 35 psi.

I just repalced the ICM and thats not the problem
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Old Jun 21, 2012 | 01:34 PM
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Default Re: 01 ITR not getting spark.

Originally Posted by JuicedUpRice
if youre not getting voltage at the distributor,then you need to check the ignition switch or the main relay..or possibly the ecu..

if you are getting voltage to the distributor,then you need to look at distributor internals..cas or tdc sensors are probably the cause if you have already replaced the icm and coil..try a friend's known working distributor and see if it helps..
have you tried these yet?
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Old Jun 22, 2012 | 07:57 AM
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Default Re: 01 ITR not getting spark.

^ Where is the main relay for the ignition switch. But it those were bad, wouldnt it not turn over????
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Old Jun 22, 2012 | 09:57 AM
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Default Re: 01 ITR not getting spark.

Originally Posted by njmad
^ Where is the main relay for the ignition switch. But it those were bad, wouldnt it not turn over????
My 2 cents i think its the main relay also. the engine will still turn over. if im not mistaking the main relay kills spark and fuel if its bad or disconnected.
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Old Jun 22, 2012 | 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by 01typerboi
My 2 cents i think its the main relay also. the engine will still turn over. if im not mistaking the main relay kills spark and fuel if its bad or disconnected.
correct.if the main relay was bad,the fuel pump would most likely not prime.the ignition switch will strictly cut power to the distributor..the ecu could also POSSIBLY be the culprit..but if the cel comes on,its highly unlikely..

it is possible to have a crank with any of these things going bad..

if you DO have 12v to the distributor,then you need to look into the distributor internals..that is assuming you dont have some crazy wiring issue..
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Old Jun 22, 2012 | 11:22 AM
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Default Re: 01 ITR not getting spark.

I dont have a wiring issue. The main relay is working. it clicks on and off when you turn the key on. Im still getting injector pulse. and i think thats my next bet the distributor internals.
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Old Jun 22, 2012 | 11:31 AM
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Default Re: 01 ITR not getting spark.

Originally Posted by njmad
I dont have a wiring issue. The main relay is working. it clicks on and off when you turn the key on. Im still getting injector pulse. and i think thats my next bet the distributor internals.
try your best to not just go buying parts,as that is a sure way of putting yourself in the broke hole..

it is tough to diagnose integra distributors without just replacing things,but assuming this isnt some terrible wiring issue..

Make SURE you have 12v at the blk/ylw wire going to the dizzy

No 12v to the dizzy - check ignition switch and/or main relay

12v to the dizzy- distributor internals..

get a multimeter,put it on voltage
take off your cap.test the +/- points on the coil.do you get 12v?
if you do - coil and/or icm best guess
you can also try measuring the current at the icm.if a wire shows no reading,you know something in there is wrong.

if no reading,it will almost definitely be your cas(crank angle sensor) or tdcs(top dead center sensor),in which you kinda have to buy a new dizzy,or replace the guts but that's a p.i.t.a.


remove the coil.measure the resistance of your coil.should be like .6?????not sure somebody please help if that is wrong!!anything different will only be lower under a load...
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Old Jun 28, 2012 | 10:06 AM
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Default Re: 01 ITR not getting spark.

well im not getting any power to my distributor.. so what can i do next. ECU is good main relay is good. all sensors are good. all grounds aqre good..
I dont know what to try next..!!
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Old Jun 28, 2012 | 03:54 PM
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Default Re: 01 ITR not getting spark.

Originally Posted by njmad
well im not getting any power to my distributor.. so what can i do next. ECU is good main relay is good. all sensors are good. all grounds aqre good..
I dont know what to try next..!!
ignition switch
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Old Jun 28, 2012 | 04:22 PM
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Default Re: 01 ITR not getting spark.

I would still look under the dash and around every where that you vacuumed.


Its too much of a coincidence that it went back after you did that.
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