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Old Apr 3, 2012 | 06:18 PM
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Default Twin 044 - 8 Injectors - E85

which will max out first? turbo or fuel system?
4 ID2000 + 4 FIC 1600 + Twin 044 + E85 / S372 A/R 1.25 on a Built 2L motor.

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Old Apr 3, 2012 | 06:22 PM
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you will max the turbo out well before the fuel system.
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Old Apr 3, 2012 | 06:27 PM
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Thanks chris. was thinking that fuel system will be maxed out first.
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Old Apr 3, 2012 | 06:30 PM
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anytime bud
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Old Apr 3, 2012 | 06:33 PM
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Default Re: Twin 044 - 8 Injectors - E85

whats the proper way to run the fuel lines on those 8 inj?

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Old Apr 4, 2012 | 04:14 AM
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Pumps will max out first if at 14v or less.
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Old Apr 4, 2012 | 04:22 AM
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Not from my experience. If we were talking about a different turbo Id agree with you but not on a 2.0ltr honda with a s372.
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Old Apr 4, 2012 | 12:30 PM
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how are you controlling the secondary set? just curious.
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Old Apr 4, 2012 | 12:46 PM
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Hey I'm running a b16 84.5mm s400 67.mm 1.25 housing on a full race top mount & itr cams.. Will 1600cc injectors & 2 Bosch 044 pumps be enough to run that turbo without worrying bout running out of fuel?
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Old Apr 4, 2012 | 04:36 PM
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Hey I'm running a b16 84.5mm s400 67.mm 1.25 housing on a full race top mount & itr cams.. Will 1600cc injectors & 2 Bosch 044 pumps be enough to run that turbo without worrying bout running out of fuel?
On twin 044s, you'll be able to make around 855-950hp on E85 before the pumps will run out of breath, give or take...this is about 800-850 lbs/hr of fuel flow. Your 1600cc will only flow around 640 lbs/hr at a 45psi base so they will be out of fuel at around 700hp give or take.

This is general math, dont quote me exactly...
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Old Apr 4, 2012 | 06:26 PM
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On twin 044s, you'll be able to make around 855-950hp on E85 before the pumps will run out of breath, give or take...this is about 800-850 lbs/hr of fuel flow. Your 1600cc will only flow around 640 lbs/hr at a 45psi base so they will be out of fuel at around 700hp give or take.

This is general math, dont quote me exactly...
Hey Chris do you think this kind of fuel setup will be sufficient with the new turbo you sent me?
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Old Apr 4, 2012 | 07:17 PM
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Fuel setups are always easy to upgrade...

If the pump doesnt have enough supply, just get a bigger pump.

Like Tony said, the limiting factory might be the voltage...so simply adding a Boost-A-Pump might get you over that edge too
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Old Apr 4, 2012 | 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by SPOOLINmatt
how are you controlling the secondary set? just curious.
x2..... pics would be awsome
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Old Apr 4, 2012 | 08:00 PM
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Default Re: Twin 044 - 8 Injectors - E85

Incase we move to a bigger pump like weldon? 1 pump and regulator will be enough for 8 inj?
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Old Apr 4, 2012 | 08:14 PM
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Default Re: Twin 044 - 8 Injectors - E85

Originally Posted by ralph11sec
Incase we move to a bigger pump like weldon? 1 pump and regulator will be enough for 8 inj?
depends on which regulator you have now, but yes basically. as long as the Reg can return enough fuel which it should be able to
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Old Apr 4, 2012 | 08:20 PM
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Default Re: Twin 044 - 8 Injectors - E85

we have both aeromotive and weldon reg at the shop.
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Old Apr 5, 2012 | 07:18 AM
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I ran 8 ID 1000cc's with 2 044's (one pump feed one rail) with 85 psi base pressure on the integra last season. Went 167mph at close to 2600 lbs at mid 70% IDC. I was running ignite red, and it was cut down with some 100 octane to meet "e85" on the tester.
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Old Apr 5, 2012 | 07:47 AM
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At 16 volts right?
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Old Apr 5, 2012 | 09:10 AM
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Default Re: Twin 044 - 8 Injectors - E85

Originally Posted by xenocron
Fuel setups are always easy to upgrade...

If the pump doesnt have enough supply, just get a bigger pump.

Like Tony said, the limiting factory might be the voltage...so simply adding a Boost-A-Pump might get you over that edge too
three pumps here we come
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Old Apr 5, 2012 | 09:58 AM
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Default Re: Twin 044 - 8 Injectors - E85

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At 16 volts right?
you need Boost-A-Pump to be able to run it at 16v right?
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Old Apr 5, 2012 | 10:13 AM
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Or a 16v battery
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Old Apr 5, 2012 | 12:35 PM
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Default Re: Twin 044 - 8 Injectors - E85

Originally Posted by xenocron
On twin 044s, you'll be able to make around 855-950hp on E85 before the pumps will run out of breath, give or take...this is about 800-850 lbs/hr of fuel flow. Your 1600cc will only flow around 640 lbs/hr at a 45psi base so they will be out of fuel at around 700hp give or take.

This is general math, dont quote me exactly...
So should I just go with 4 id2200cc injectors..& c16 is the fuel I'm using.. Would run e85 but Idk of any place in around Roanoke va that sells it.. I though I saw where sheetz sold it. 850-950whp is my goal
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Old Apr 5, 2012 | 01:27 PM
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Old Apr 5, 2012 | 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Nasty_EK
So should I just go with 4 id2200cc injectors..& c16 is the fuel I'm using.. Would run e85 but Idk of any place in around Roanoke va that sells it.. I though I saw where sheetz sold it. 850-950whp is my goal
Q16 not with ID 2000s...E85 or C23 with those.

1600s and Q16 you would get close to your goal....

By a barrel of E98 or some form of Race E85, Ignite, Rocket....etc
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Old Apr 5, 2012 | 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by tepid1
Or a 16v battery
I've read that his eliminates the use of an alternator right?
Won't other electronics be affected running a 16v battery like gauges, ecu etc.?
What if we run this batt and still retain the oem alternator to eliminate the use of a
16v battery charger is it possible?

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