Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000) EG/EH/EJ/EK/EM1 Discussion

92 Honda civic wont idle

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Mar 26, 2012 | 06:58 AM
  #1  
mscar111's Avatar
Thread Starter
Trial User
 
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
Icon6 92 Honda civic wont idle

Yesterday I was driving home in my 92 Honda Civic, I was going up a hill and I was loosing power quickly and then the cars oil light came on and it died. I got the car towed and I'm now trying to figure out whats wrong with it.

When I start the car it will jump to about 300 RPM and then die, unless I give it gas it will just die, the oil light is still on but there is no overheating. When I rev it up to about 2000 RPM it sounds a little more normal but there is this very loud CLUNK sound that happens every now and then.

I checked the oil and its fine, I just had an oil change. I replaced the spark plugs and the spark plug wires and just recently bought a new distributor literally 2 weeks ago.

I was told it could be the catalytic converter so I disconnected the catalytic converter and tried starting the car but the same thing happens.

When I replaced the spark plugs the 3rd and 4th cylinder was filled with oil so I was a little worried about that, I took the spark plugs out and let the oil drain. I talked to my brother thats a mechanic and he told me they replaced the head gaskit and when you change those sometimes you have to tighten the head bolts because they will become loose after replacing the head gaskit, they were pretty loose but I tightened them up and tried to start it again but the same thing happened.

My brother told me to take off the top bolt of the fuel filter and turn the key to see how high the gas was shooting out, he explained that the gas should shoot out and be hitting the hood but after turning the key the gas maybe went up about 4 inches. He told me I wasn't getting enough power and that I needed to change the fuel filter. I bought a fuel filter and replaced that and retried to start it.. still the same thing and the gas is still only going about 4 inches high.

He told me its probably the fuel pump so I bought a new pump and today I will be replacing it (I'm not that great of a mechanic) I got the diagram on how to replace the fuel pump off of autozone so hopefully it goes well.

I'm wondering if anyone else has any theorys or anything that I can check and get back with.. I'm hoping that its a fuel pump but to me it sounds like the engine is misfiring and thats why I changed all the electrical. Its been sitting with old gas so could it be from the old gas? did the head blow? Is it the fuel pump? When I start it I hear a lot of rattling coming from the right side of the engine where the timing belt is.. every now and then its a really loud CLUNK sound coming from the right side looking down at the engine.

I'd appreciate the help.
Reply
Old Mar 26, 2012 | 07:25 AM
  #2  
dpetro1's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 4,222
Likes: 1
From: Tracys Landing, MD
Default Re: 92 Honda civic wont idle

Thanks for the detailed post.

The major issue is that your oil light is on. This means there is no oil pressure in the motor. So even though your oil level is fine, the oil isn't flowing through the motor. Since this was a sudden thing, it sounds like the oil pump has broken and stopped flowing oil through the motor. The other option would be a rod bearing failure.

Have the oil pressure problem diagnosed and do not keep trying to run the engine. Remove the spark plugs and turn the engine by hand, counterclockwise. Listen/feel for any noises

Unfortuantely it sounds like a major engine failure. Don't keep replacing parts at random. Your brother's diagnosis is incorrect.
Reply
Old Mar 26, 2012 | 07:32 AM
  #3  
Junk Box's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
Default Re: 92 Honda civic wont idle

Stock motor? If so, time for a swap.
Reply
Old Mar 26, 2012 | 07:36 AM
  #4  
lilboxx's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 147
Likes: 0
From: vinton, ia
Default Re: 92 Honda civic wont idle

Originally Posted by dpetro1
Thanks for the detailed post.

The major issue is that your oil light is on. This means there is no oil pressure in the motor. So even though your oil level is fine, the oil isn't flowing through the motor. Since this was a sudden thing, it sounds like the oil pump has broken and stopped flowing oil through the motor. The other option would be a rod bearing failure.

Have the oil pressure problem diagnosed and do not keep trying to run the engine. Remove the spark plugs and turn the engine by hand, counterclockwise. Listen/feel for any noises

Unfortuantely it sounds like a major engine failure. Don't keep replacing parts at random. Your brother's diagnosis is incorrect.
^^ this guy said it all there's really no need to be dumping a bunch of money into random parts when the main problem lies within the motor.......
Reply
Old Mar 26, 2012 | 08:00 AM
  #5  
mscar111's Avatar
Thread Starter
Trial User
 
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
Default Re: 92 Honda civic wont idle

Originally Posted by dpetro1
Thanks for the detailed post.

The major issue is that your oil light is on. This means there is no oil pressure in the motor. So even though your oil level is fine, the oil isn't flowing through the motor. Since this was a sudden thing, it sounds like the oil pump has broken and stopped flowing oil through the motor. The other option would be a rod bearing failure.

Have the oil pressure problem diagnosed and do not keep trying to run the engine. Remove the spark plugs and turn the engine by hand, counterclockwise. Listen/feel for any noises

Unfortuantely it sounds like a major engine failure. Don't keep replacing parts at random. Your brother's diagnosis is incorrect.
Thanks for the reply. How do I go about diagnosing the oil pressure? the car is sitting at my house and obviously I cant bring it anywhere. The fuel pump was $70 so should I replace it or get my money back since u dont think thats the problem?

How much would the oil pump be and how hard would it be to replace? Is this a huge problem? I JUST bought this car for $900 and I've put about another $1000 into this car so far.

You also mentioned the rod bearing? what is this part and how could I check if its the problem?

Last edited by mscar111; Mar 26, 2012 at 08:03 AM. Reason: rod bearing
Reply
Old Mar 26, 2012 | 08:06 AM
  #6  
mscar111's Avatar
Thread Starter
Trial User
 
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
Default Re: 92 Honda civic wont idle

Originally Posted by Junk Box
Stock motor? If so, time for a swap.
It is the stock motor it has about 180,000 miles on it.

I have a acura integra DOHC head that I put $500 in it for a valve job and to be completely redone.. If I have to redo the engine could I change out the top end with the acura integra engine head?
Reply
Old Mar 26, 2012 | 11:51 AM
  #7  
dpetro1's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 4,222
Likes: 1
From: Tracys Landing, MD
Default Re: 92 Honda civic wont idle

Originally Posted by mscar111
Thanks for the reply. How do I go about diagnosing the oil pressure? the car is sitting at my house and obviously I cant bring it anywhere. The fuel pump was $70 so should I replace it or get my money back since u dont think thats the problem?
The first step should be to remove the oil pan and check for metal shaving/chucks. This could be pieces of the oil pump gear and/or bearing material. Do not replace the fuel pump. Return it.

Originally Posted by mscar111
How much would the oil pump be and how hard would it be to replace? Is this a huge problem?
The pump itself is about $100 but you will need to also replace a lot of gaskets and seals along the way. But the engine may be permanently damanged from lossing oil pressure. You would need an experienced mechanic to confirm this. Then the engine could be rebuilt or replaced.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Alex Carmichael
Honda CRX / EF Civic (1988 - 1991)
1
Mar 3, 2019 08:58 AM
alexahudson78
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000)
0
Jul 31, 2018 01:13 PM
boost4life1
Honda Prelude
9
May 15, 2012 08:52 PM
xJohn18
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000)
11
Jan 27, 2011 06:03 PM
karkess
Honda Accord (1990 - 2002)
22
Oct 15, 2009 02:28 PM




All times are GMT -8. The time now is 10:59 AM.