Fuel guage needle not on full mark

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Old Mar 24, 2012 | 01:28 PM
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Hi guys, lil issue that's bugging me since I bought my CRX in 2006.
Whenever I fill up my tank, the fuel guage needle does not hit or pass the full mark like it does on my 91 civic and 88 civic. It stays just below the full mark.

Any idea how to solve this issue ?

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Old Mar 24, 2012 | 01:35 PM
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did you ever open up the gauge cluster? that usually happens when you change the face plates and dont line up the back to its original position im having this problem with my ls cluster and the rmp gauge, it was originally a failmatic cluster and it had a ls standard rpm face plate swapped on it and the needle is not reading write. i think you can just take the needle off and adjust it.. just be careful its a lil delicate
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Old Mar 24, 2012 | 01:37 PM
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Default Re: Fuel guage needle not on full mark

Originally Posted by jsinher3
did you ever open up the gauge cluster? t
No. It's all stock.
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Old Mar 24, 2012 | 01:56 PM
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Out of my 3 ef's they've all been like this. Just got used to it.
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Old Mar 24, 2012 | 01:56 PM
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Default Re: Fuel guage needle not on full mark

Ive seen this happen on a jeep, doing an instrument cluster test fixed it. Have you tried that yet?
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Old Mar 24, 2012 | 01:59 PM
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Default Re: Fuel guage needle not on full mark

unless its not digital
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Old Mar 25, 2012 | 07:32 AM
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Default Re: Fuel guage needle not on full mark

u can open up the cluster and move the needle to center it more
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Old Sep 14, 2012 | 02:45 PM
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My '88 CRX didn't read all the way full ever. So I opened the cluster today and reset it to full just after getting gas (I was still at the gas station when I reset it even).

Now the needle is stuck on full.

Since someone might mention it, here are the related tests.
Originally Posted by Helms 1988 Civic CRX Shop Manual, page 23-92
Gauge Test

NOTE: Refer to page 23-84 for wiring description of the fuel gauge circuit.

1. Remove the security compartment (see section 20), then remove the maintenance access cover.

2. Disconnect the 2-P connector from the fuel gauge sending unit.

3. Connect the voltmeter positive prove to the A (YEL/WHT) terminal and the negative probe to the B (BLK) terminal, then turn the ignition switch ON. There should be battery voltage.

* If battery voltage, go to step 4.

* If the voltage is not as specified, check for:
- Blown No. 1 (10A) fuse in the dash fuse box.
- An open in the YEL, YEL/WHT or BLK wire.
- Poor ground (G511 or G561).

4. Turn the ignition switch OFF. Attach a jumper wire between the A (YEL/WHT) and B (BLK) terminals.

Turn the ignition switch ON.

Check that the pointer of the fuel gauge starts moving toward "F" mark.

CAUTION: Turn the ignition switch OFF before the pointer reaches "F" mark on the gauge dial. Failure to turn the ignition switch OFF before the pointer reaches the "F" mark may cause damage to the fuel gauge.

NOTE: The fuel gauge is a bobbin (cross coil) type, hence the fuel level is continuously indicated even when the ignition switch is OFF, and the pointer moves more slowly than that of a bimetal type.

* If the pointer of the fuel gauge does not swing at all, replace the gauge.

* Inspect the fuel gauge sending unit if the gauge is OK.

Originally Posted by Helms 1988 Civic CRX Shop Manual, page 23-83
Description

Bobbin Type (Cross Coil Type) Gauge:

* A bobbin type gauge is an electromagnetic instrument in which two intersecting coils are wound around the permanent magnet rotor. By varying the resistance of the unit to vary the current which flows through the col, the magnetic force which energizes the coil will vary, causing the rotor (pointer) to operate. A sliding resistance is employed in the fuel gauge just as in a bimetal type gauge, and a thermistor is used in the temperature gauge.

* The rotor of the fuel gauge is immersed in damper oil and its center of gravity lies roughly along the rotating shaft, hence the fuel gauge level is indicated even when the ignition switch is OFF.

* The coolant temperature gauge is a center point stable small indicating angle type which indicates the temperature of the coolant between about 85°C (185°F) and 100°C (212°F).


Originally Posted by Helms 1988 Civic CRX Shop Manual, page 23-93
Sending Unit Test/Replacement

WARNING Do not smoke while working on fuel system. Keep open flame away from work area.

1. Remove the security compartment (see section 20), then remove the maintenance access cover.

2. Check that the ignition switch OFF, then disconnect the 2-P connector from the fuel gauge sending unit.

3. Remove the fuel gauge sending unit. (FUEL SENDER WRENCH: 07920-SB20000)

4. Measure the resistance between the A and B terminals at E (EMPTY), 1/2 (HALF FULL) and F (FULL) by removing the float.

Float Position: E
Resistance (Ω): 105-110

Float Position: 1/2
Resistance (Ω): 25.5-39.5

Float Position: F
Resistance (Ω): 2-5

(NOFX: The following is information taken from images in the Helms, but I'm not scanning and posting them here because (1) laziness and (2) eventually the pics might die anyway.)

Si and Std models:

Measured from the base of the fuel sending unit mount:
Middle of float position at F: 45 mm (1.8 in.)
Middle of float position at 1/2: 93 mm (3.7 in.)
Middle of float position at E: 144.5 mm (5.7 in.)

HF model:

Measured from the base of the fuel sending unit mount:
Middle of float position at F: 54 mm (2.1 in.)
Middle of float position at 1/2: 97.9 mm (3.9 in.)
Middle of float position at E: 144.4 mm (5.7 in.)

5. If unable to obtain the above readings, replace the fuel gauge sending unit.

Last edited by NOFX; Sep 14, 2012 at 03:19 PM.
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