I will be picking up a Diversion 180 in the next few weeks and want to see what kind of projects you folks are doing with these machines. Feel free to post anything tech related and pictures of things welded with the diversion 165 and 180 machines.

Surge

 

There are a lot of people on here, including myself, who use it with good success. A quick search should throw up a whole lot of threads about this welder and what it's capable of producing.

 

I have not seen many recent threads related to the diversion machine unless they are under "post your best welds" thread.... Just looking to see what this machine is capable of doing and what is the thickest material welded with this. It is rated at 3/16" but can it do thicker? Say for example when welding a collector to the flange etc.

 

Finally had some time to play around with mines the heat it puts out is sufficient for most fab jobs.

Its a great little machine for the home hobbiest IMO. The trigger on the torch still needs some getting use to though. Still practicing.....post pics when the welds do look better.

 

I just purchased one as well, played with it for a couple days... I am really happy with it. Oh and my first time with it was my first time with TIG ever

 

Get a foot pedal, finger tip controls as a whole are hard to work with.

 

looking to get one asap also. not sure what I want to go with

 

Ive had my 165a for the better part of 3 years now and it has done its purpose very well. im not the best tig welder but it has definitely helped with the learning process, as its designed to...

the only thing im not a fan of is how bulky the torch is and how its not an easy snap to change to another torch or longer cables. Oh and no stick welding clamp, but i have a separate welder for that and have no need for the arch welding... ill get some pictures up if i can shortly

 

Cheap and works well, I like it for just welding aluminum or as a back up welder. If you can spend the extra get a dynasty with water cool that way you have penetration control which comes in handy as well as being able to weld at high amps for long periods of time if your doing runs Of items

 

that is what I am debating about. How long can you weld on the diversion before it starts acting up or heating up?

 

Stainless you really won't overheat but I'd your doing decently thick aluminum for decent times then you'll run into an issue. Spend the extra and get a dynasty so you have everything you'll need.

 

I ran my Diversion at full amperage welding aluminum and it was nearly unbearable at the end of the pass. Water cooled torches would certainly help that issue.

If you're doing a LOT of production welding the Diversion simply isn't for you, that's not it's purpose. It's a hobby, at home welder.

 

Looking at doing turbo manifolds, thin wall SS and AL piping and roll cages mostly. the thickest I will be welding is going to be the flanges for the turbo manifold. This machine will be able to handle that, correct?

 

For welding aluminum or production runs on steel you have to run a watercooled setup. we run a maxstar 200 as a backup to our lincoln squarewave 350. when doing production work on it the internal fan is constantly on and off and occasionally will go into thermal overload and throw a code so you have to let it cool down before you can weld some more and we are only welding at 20 up to 60 amps on .065 and thinner stainless. you can make up your own cooler set up for less than half of a name brand unit.

also foot pedals are the way to go. i am not the greatest welder and have never used a finger amptrol but it just seems like it wouldn't let me position my hands the way i like on the torch especially when i have to get into tight spaces.

if you can i would splurge and get a dynasty series with pulse. the right pulse settings can make an amateurs welds look like he's a seasoned pro!

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MILLER-DYNAS...ht_1053wt_1073

here's a factoryt refurbished unit with two year warranty.

 

he's not doing production runs, he is just welding stuff at home , he doesn't even know how to tig I am guessing. No need for a dynasty.

it is more than enough for the flanges to pipe.

Learn how to preheat 2fast4u831

 

I do know how to tig. I'm backpurging 3" pipe at the moment. which welder do you have essex?

 

I have a dynasty , if you know how to tig why are you asking if you can weld flange to pipe with a 180 amp machine I'm confused are you doing production or home fab for friends etc.

I would personally buy that everlast micro tig or a thermal arc there is no balance settings on the diversion. check out the "starting my own fab shop" topic that guy uses a 185 lincoln machine

 

I was asking because I don't own a diversion and it is only rated to do 3/16" thickness. But I have seen SovXietday do a turbo manifold with this welder. I just don't want to fry this machine while welding an at high Amps. I think I will save up for a dynasty 200dx. It looks like I can run that steadily at 100 Amps.

 

nothing wrong with dynasty it does everything great.

maybe check out pirate 4x4 see if any of them are using it all those guys do is weld thick stuff

Check out this he used a diversion 165 when he started
https://honda-tech.com/forums/welding-fabrication-53/built-my-first-manifold-pics-2528957/
https://honda-tech.com/forums/showpo...1&postcount=15
https://honda-tech.com/forums/welding-fabrication-53/thanks-all-help-week-later-pics-2512667/
https://honda-tech.com/forums/welding-fabrication-53/my-little-welding-table-my-tig-what-do-you-think-2464654/

 

thanks for the links. they were helpful and gives me ideas of what the diversion can do.