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Old Feb 4, 2012 | 02:52 PM
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hey HT. Im currently building an ls/vtec b18b1 bottom end with gsr top end. Nothing crazy is being done, just p30 pistons and ITR valvetrain. Ive been researching and ive been getting mixed answers on whether or not to use a block guard for this build, My machinist recommends it but i dont think its nec. whats the pros and cons?? this will be my DD for a while too.
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Old Feb 4, 2012 | 03:30 PM
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spend the money on arp rod bolts, headstuds, and balancing the bottom end. a block guard will do nothing for you.
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Old Feb 4, 2012 | 03:48 PM
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Thanks. I'm definantly buying all those regardless. But I can never get a clear answer on this for some reason.
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Old Feb 4, 2012 | 04:01 PM
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ive read a lot of good things and a lot of bad things about them.
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Old Feb 4, 2012 | 04:15 PM
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what makes you think you need one?
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Old Feb 4, 2012 | 04:24 PM
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i thought it would be good insurance, but after researching and asking around i figured theres no need for one for my power goals. the machinist im bringing my block too just recommended it so i just wanted to look into it again
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Old Feb 4, 2012 | 04:35 PM
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Block guards do more harm than good. They put stress on the cylinder walls.

This is the last time I will explain this, as I am tired of saying it lol

The casting on the outside of the cylinder walls are different in every engine, different high and low spots here and there, while the block guard is machined flat, and will put stress on the high spots, obviously causing stress on the cylinder.
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Old Feb 4, 2012 | 04:57 PM
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thats what ive read also, thanks
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Old Feb 4, 2012 | 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by DirtyDA9
Block guards do more harm than good. They put stress on the cylinder walls.

This is the last time I will explain this, as I am tired of saying it lol

The casting on the outside of the cylinder walls are different in every engine, different high and low spots here and there, while the block guard is machined flat, and will put stress on the high spots, obviously causing stress on the cylinder.
False, Lol the web is full of false information. Block guard will benefit you. I have a Golden Eagle sleeved block with a block guard from Golden Eagle!, why would they do that cause they know wtf they are doing! Check my build thread.
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Old Feb 4, 2012 | 07:28 PM
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Lol that's what I'm thinking. I'll check it out def
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Old Feb 4, 2012 | 07:30 PM
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That's what I said ! Lol post it up and I'll def check it out dude
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Old Feb 4, 2012 | 07:50 PM
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False, Lol the web is full of false information. Block guard will benefit you. I have a Golden Eagle sleeved block with a block guard from Golden Eagle!, why would they do that cause they know wtf they are doing! Check my build thread.
that "block guard" on ge sleeves is actually incorporated into the sleeve. not really a block guard in the traditional sense at all.
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Originally Posted by b20_EM1
False, Lol the web is full of false information. Block guard will benefit you. I have a Golden Eagle sleeved block with a block guard from Golden Eagle!, why would they do that cause they know wtf they are doing! Check my build thread.
Think about what you are saying, GE SLEEVES!... GE sleeves arent casted, therefore they are perfectly machined all the way around unlike factory cast cylinders. Your logic is poo.
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Old Feb 5, 2012 | 04:27 AM
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lol got a point
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Old Feb 6, 2012 | 03:30 PM
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what HP should i start looking into block guards? my goals are hopefully around 190 HP.
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Old Feb 6, 2012 | 03:36 PM
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when you start making more power than the stock sleeves can handle. so if you're sticking to NA, never. unless you crack a sleeve somehow, then resleeve it.
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Old Feb 6, 2012 | 04:35 PM
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Lol thanks. It's a pretty straight forward build
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