i'm fairly new to Performance Honda's but...

what are some of the real benefits of a B20 over say a B18 or even a B16?

from what i can see, at least stat wise.. a B18 is superior plus its got vtec

any advice/help?

 

Useable torque

 

No replacement for DISPLACEMENT.

 

.2L and .4L of displacement.[/QUOTE]
How is a b18 superior? Put a vtec head on a b20. As the above poster said, there is no replacement for displacement. There is hardly anything you can do (besides a total tear down and serious rebuild) to make up the difference in displacement.

We're talking 20-30whp and torque difference here.

 

That's why they make these...
http://www.motorator.com/uploads/blo...TX_Turbo_1.jpg

 

wrong section.

 

Mwahahahahaha! Art thou most furious?

 

Thou art not furious, thou art stating thee be in thy all motor section.

 

Shall we block out thy truth? All motor forum is worse than the catholic church lol

 

This is why B20 VTEC is better.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jda9j0_qozI

 

Oh, and of course skunk2 pro2's

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YvK4...eature=related

 

Rides nice when it hits VTEC but WTF that **** is sluggish on the low cam! I thought the pro series were supposed to be killer midrange on the low cam?

 

I just thought he didn't put his foot all the way down but after looking back at it something is definitely wrong there.

 

so, i really don't know much like i said before, is there a good guide to Honda engines somewhere out there? that explains the different series (D, B, K, H, etc.) and the +'s and -'s of them, information on head's and block's, possible combinations of them, prices you should be paying, explanation of VTEC, best internal parts to build with (pistons, rods, etc.) and Miscellaneous Stuff (Ecu's, Harnesses, etc.) please and thank you

 

Google.com

Or you can spend the time and search the various forums here

 

Everyone starts here but this is how you need to start. What do you want to do? Do you want a daily driver that's pretty peppy? Do you want a track car? Are you looking for a sleeper that blows Ferrari's off the road? When you figure out what you want to do then someone can help point you in the correct direction.

 

right now i have a 1989 stock honda civic std, that's changing very soon...

so i need chassis suggestions and motor suggestions

it would be my daily driver.

i really like hatchbacks but a coupe would work with me.

i do want VTEC

i honestly don't know what numbers to expect, i want to beat pretty much anything around my area (Utah), so atleast high 300's hp?

i want to build the motor first, then go forced induction.

so.. i'm not even sure if i want to build a honda, i was considering a Subie.. nothing new more like a late 90s/2000 2.5RS ...

so input anyone?

 

To me a b20 vtec its better then b16-b18 why? Because i own a built b20 vtec race all my friends with all motor hondas as well and built cant compere or stay close with me at all . Plus reliable if built right and not cut corners look at my car pics

 

https://honda-tech.com/forums/showth...2#post46795082


cheers

 

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If you're looking for the 300whp+ range, you need to be in the Forced Induction forum.

 

No necessarily. A high compression setup on a b20 can do that. One of the guys in this forum Daily drives a 250whp b20vtec if i recall correctly. 300whp isn't impossible.

 

i know, but i want to go with an all motor build at first then down the road boost it, long term build.

so to get a B20VTEC would i have to swap with an already VTEC head? like a B16? cause i believe stock there are no B20VTEC's

 

It's impossible for someone who doesn't know the performance differences between B20s and B16s

OP, you're right, there are no stock B20-Vtecs, although it's a common build and you can find a lot of information about how to do one. However if you're planning on turbocharging down the road, you'll save a lot of money and time by skipping the all-motor build and starting right away on an LS-turbo or something similar.

 

i know i would probably save money and time isn't an issue, but i want to build the engine so when i do boost it i won't have to worry about anything blowing or throwing.

i know two kids at my school who boosted there hondas and one threw a rod and the other blew his entire block, due to stock parts and over boosting.