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Old Jan 22, 2012 | 03:55 PM
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Default Oil Cooler on ls/vtec and boosted setup...oil pressure worries?

Figured that I would post this in the road racing forum because its probably where most people run oil coolers on their setups. Anyways, my steup...
6765 journal bearing precision
84mm sleeved ls/vtec with 6an lsvtec line
type r oil pump

I'm interested in installing an oil cooler off of my sandwich plate. Does anyone run an oil cooler with a boosted setup? I'm a little afraid of oil pressure issues since i am running a large frame turbo and an lsvtec line. Does anyone have experience with running all the above? Any oil pressure drops? I was even thinking of installing a restrictor to the oil cooler to be safe. Post it up peeps!!
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Old Jan 22, 2012 | 04:21 PM
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I'm currently running a Setrab 25 Row Oil Cooler on my setup. Although I'm not running an ls/vtec I do have a GT28RS and don't have any issues with oil pressure. I made sure to run the largest lines possible for the cooler to ensure minimal pressure drop.

An oil cooler is a must for roading racing, especially if you're boosted. What kind of oil pressure are you seeing today?
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Old Jan 22, 2012 | 04:33 PM
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Haven't installed the oil pressure gauge on my setup yet. Just got it running the other day. Wouldn't it make pressure lower if you ran larger lines to the cooler? I figued if I ran smaller lines or a restrictor to the cooler it would keep more of the oil pressure everywhere else.
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Old Jan 22, 2012 | 06:46 PM
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Default Re: Oil Cooler on ls/vtec and boosted setup...oil pressure worries?

There have been a few boosted threads on here.
Google search boosted,oil cooler using honda tech in the string.
Im sure it will tell you everything you wanted to know about boosting and how to cool it and keep it cool.

EDIT: I just searched this forum and came up with a whole page of boosted and oil cooler threads.
Doooooood go back ,and search... stop being so lazy.
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Old Jan 23, 2012 | 07:44 AM
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Default Re: Oil Cooler on ls/vtec and boosted setup...oil pressure worries?

The time you spent searching yourself to try and make me look bad you could of given me a quick response on the issue. I searched and nothing really caught my eye otherwise I wouldn't of posted this
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Old Jan 23, 2012 | 08:19 AM
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Default Re: Oil Cooler on ls/vtec and boosted setup...oil pressure worries?

We dont spoon feed people in here like they do in other forums.
Your search didnt find anything? Really?
Try googling like I said before.
"Oil coolers" isn't a new subject here, and there is plenty of reading on them if you look.

"Post it up peeps" wont make others want to help you either.
Especially if you didnt search.
So fyi... we tend to flame those who dont do their (gawd i hate this term "due diligence")
We arent going to start a new thread and rehash the same oil cooler information that is already out there. and there is alot of it!

Trust me just go search... you'll find a plethora of information on what has been done, and what you can do.
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Old Jan 23, 2012 | 08:43 AM
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Default Re: Oil Cooler on ls/vtec and boosted setup...oil pressure worries?

FYI everyone build is different to there is never a 100% right answer for a given person.

I am going to be running 10an lines, and I think it should be ok for my setup, but if pressure are too low I will just buy 4 fitting and 10ft of line a change it to 8an.

The pump will flow basic the same amount of fluid for any given line it is just how much pressure to flow that amount. There is some loss do to pressure in flow.
40psi with 10an == 3.1gal/min
is like
50psi with 8an == 3gal/min
(not real number but you get the idea)

So pick a size and see what your pressure is if you need higher pressure, upgrade to a more flowing pump(if one is made) or go to a small size line.
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Old Jan 23, 2012 | 09:31 AM
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Default Re: Oil Cooler on ls/vtec and boosted setup...oil pressure worries?

If he had searched that would of been covered too in the many threads on oil coolers.
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Old Jan 23, 2012 | 09:37 AM
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Default Re: Oil Cooler on ls/vtec and boosted setup...oil pressure worries?

Sorry next time I guess I will have to be a dick.
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Old Jan 23, 2012 | 09:45 AM
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You dont have to be a dick.. just redirect him to go look at all the wonderful threads on what has already been covered and it will save him from starting another redundant thread.
Cause god knows we dont need 50 threads covering oil coolers, turbos and oil pressure.
Not when the first 5 covered it all.
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Old Jan 23, 2012 | 02:59 PM
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Default Re: Oil Cooler on ls/vtec and boosted setup...oil pressure worries?

What are you setting the car up for? DD, drag etc?

I would get an oil temp gauge on the pan and see where u stand. Maybe u don't need a cooler for what u will be doing. I never had one on my t3 60-1 DD/autox setup, but I also didn't have a temp gauge to know if it was getting too high.

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Old Jan 23, 2012 | 04:34 PM
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Default Re: Oil Cooler on ls/vtec and boosted setup...oil pressure worries?

Originally Posted by cluelessmale
FYI everyone build is different to there is never a 100% right answer for a given person.

I am going to be running 10an lines, and I think it should be ok for my setup, but if pressure are too low I will just buy 4 fitting and 10ft of line a change it to 8an.

The pump will flow basic the same amount of fluid for any given line it is just how much pressure to flow that amount. There is some loss do to pressure in flow.
40psi with 10an == 3.1gal/min
is like
50psi with 8an == 3gal/min
(not real number but you get the idea)

So pick a size and see what your pressure is if you need higher pressure, upgrade to a more flowing pump(if one is made) or go to a small size line.
I think you have that one backwards. If you want to minimize pressure drop you'll want to increase the size of the line. Most guys go with a -10an line exactly for that reason. There's a limit though, but the general rule of thumb is the larger the line the less the pressure drop.
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Old Jan 23, 2012 | 06:00 PM
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Default Re: Oil Cooler on ls/vtec and boosted setup...oil pressure worries?

that seem wrong by everything I have learned in all my fluid classes,

but I would be happy it that is the case and I will find out shortly (once it gets warmer outside)
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Old Jan 24, 2012 | 06:27 PM
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https://honda-tech.com/forums/showth...ge=2&t=2979755

Large line is less pressure drop on the other side and through the system, small line gives more pressure in the line as you noted, but less pressure on the other side. A small line acts as a restrictor. The length of the hose is a major factor the longer the hose, the larger the diameter needs to be.
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Old Jan 27, 2012 | 10:14 AM
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Default Re: Oil Cooler on ls/vtec and boosted setup...oil pressure worries?

Originally Posted by dirty19
We dont spoon feed people in here like they do in other forums.
Your search didnt find anything? Really?
Try googling like I said before.
"Oil coolers" isn't a new subject here, and there is plenty of reading on them if you look.

"Post it up peeps" wont make others want to help you either.
Especially if you didnt search.
So fyi... we tend to flame those who dont do their (gawd i hate this term "due diligence")
We arent going to start a new thread and rehash the same oil cooler information that is already out there. and there is alot of it!

Trust me just go search... you'll find a plethora of information on what has been done, and what you can do.
You must hate your life...
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Old Jan 27, 2012 | 10:24 AM
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Default Re: Oil Cooler on ls/vtec and boosted setup...oil pressure worries?

The car is gonna be driven probably a couple days a week or more and is basically set up for drag. I'm pretty sure the smaller the line that you run to the cooler, the less oil it will take from the pump and in turn sustain more pressure to the engine. I will install a oil temp gauge in the pan though that is a good idea. I've seen other people run those on their setups and it will give me an idea how hot it is actually getting. I'm mostly a little worried about summertime driving. Right now its still pretty cool out
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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 01:00 PM
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Default Re: Oil Cooler on ls/vtec and boosted setup...oil pressure worries?

just a thought, might be "stupid" but why not run a low voltage pump from the pan drain to the cooler and back to the pan, that way you won't have to worry about any pressure drops in the system run the pump on a switch.

any thoughts on this you could then run a bigger oil cooler

just a thought.
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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 05:09 PM
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Default Re: Oil Cooler on ls/vtec and boosted setup...oil pressure worries?

Originally Posted by jdmcx
just a thought, might be "stupid" but why not run a low voltage pump from the pan drain to the cooler and back to the pan, that way you won't have to worry about any pressure drops in the system run the pump on a switch.

any thoughts on this you could then run a bigger oil cooler

just a thought.
interesting idea. sounds like it would work. they make these http://www.summitracing.com/parts/TIL-40-524/

-drew
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