1990 Civic HB DX Wont pass emissions

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jan 21, 2012 | 12:57 AM
  #1  
cnowak's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 26
Likes: 0
Default 1990 Civic HB DX Wont pass emissions

I am trying to troubleshoot why my car wont pass emissions (im not very car savy)

I passed at idle
but under a load my

HC=4.7 C02=12.67

which is outrageous

any suggestions? please....
Reply
Old Jan 21, 2012 | 03:59 AM
  #2  
OneBadTurboCRV's Avatar
DO IT ON ALL FOURS
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 7,632
Likes: 15
From: IN Your Mind
Default Re: 1990 Civic HB DX Wont pass emissions

Well aside from doing the basics, I am not sure us telling you what do to is going to help much. To have THAT high of hydrocarbons something is deffinently wrong... I know in NWI the limits for most 4 cylinders are around 0.80 and vehicles pass that.

We need a LOT more information to even begin helping you:

Any recent work/modifications?
Does it burn oil?
Does it smoke at all?
Really any pertinent information that may be helpful to us helping you...
Reply
Old Jan 21, 2012 | 04:59 AM
  #3  
Mr. EG's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 1,060
Likes: 1
Default Re: 1990 Civic HB DX Wont pass emissions

Is the a CAT on the vehicle or any CEL lights? What state are you trying to pass in?
Reply
Old Jan 21, 2012 | 08:53 PM
  #4  
cnowak's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 26
Likes: 0
Default Re: 1990 Civic HB DX Wont pass emissions

I put a new cat converter, 02 sensor, starter, and main relay in recently I also put a short ram intake. Idk if its burning oil and no there is no smoke, but even after replacing the 02 sensor I still get code 12 on the computer. Iam trying to pass in Tucson, AZ btw.... Please help....
Reply
Old Jan 21, 2012 | 09:09 PM
  #5  
whited's Avatar
CRX God
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 1,106
Likes: 2
Default Re: 1990 Civic HB DX Wont pass emissions

Some states have "waivers" not all inspection stations are licensed to do waivers, so they don't all suggest it. Pretty much you put X amount of money into your car fixing anything emissions related (plugs wires, O2 sensor, Cat, etc) and they will automatically pass you for an additional fee. Look into if you state has something similar.

Also exemptions are available. Pretty much, if it is under a certain mileage since the last inspection, it passes.
Reply
Old Jan 21, 2012 | 09:13 PM
  #6  
whited's Avatar
CRX God
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 1,106
Likes: 2
Default Re: 1990 Civic HB DX Wont pass emissions

Looks like AZ waivers are a bit different. http://www.azdeq.gov/environ/air/vei/fail.html

Whenever I did emissions on older cars. We let them heat up, and get the exhaust really hot. Then test them. A cold car fails a lot more than a hot one. Maybe just try that.
Reply
Old Jan 22, 2012 | 07:08 AM
  #7  
OneBadTurboCRV's Avatar
DO IT ON ALL FOURS
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 7,632
Likes: 15
From: IN Your Mind
Default Re: 1990 Civic HB DX Wont pass emissions

Why would any of that help a code 12? You should have stated that before... Here is some stuff to get you started...

http://www.clubcivic.com/board/showthread.php?t=192450

https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-crx-ef-civic-1988-1991-3/ecu-codes-code-explanation-1558301/
Reply
Old Jan 22, 2012 | 02:17 PM
  #8  
cnowak's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 26
Likes: 0
Default Re: 1990 Civic HB DX Wont pass emissions

i meant code 15 not 12 sorry
Reply
Old Jan 22, 2012 | 02:52 PM
  #9  
OneBadTurboCRV's Avatar
DO IT ON ALL FOURS
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 7,632
Likes: 15
From: IN Your Mind
Default Re: 1990 Civic HB DX Wont pass emissions

You vehicle is running in limp mode...

You can try replacing the Igniter (Ignition Conrol Module = ICM) or the whole distributor as sometimes it can be an internal sensor. This code can also be caused by wiring or even the ECU. Your best bet is to start with the cheapest option of either another distributor or Igniter.
Reply
Old Jan 22, 2012 | 06:43 PM
  #10  
cnowak's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 26
Likes: 0
Default Re: 1990 Civic HB DX Wont pass emissions

I just checked the light on my ECU and its not code 15 or 12....its code 1 sorry for the mix up I have had a long weekend but it is definitely code 1 and i really really need to get my car to pass emissions please any suggestions will be amazing to me....I read somewhere that if I replace the head gasket, water pump, and timing belt that my car should pass...true or false?
Reply
Old Jan 23, 2012 | 04:08 AM
  #11  
OneBadTurboCRV's Avatar
DO IT ON ALL FOURS
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 7,632
Likes: 15
From: IN Your Mind
Default Re: 1990 Civic HB DX Wont pass emissions

What?!? NO, not unless something is wrong with those parts listed to begin with. Code 1 is the O2 sensor... It's cheap enough to just change it. Reset the code and if it comes back then troubleshoot it. Only bad part is those hydrocarbons are pretty far off to be just an O2 sensor - then again you never know.
Reply
Old Jan 23, 2012 | 09:04 AM
  #12  
whited's Avatar
CRX God
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 1,106
Likes: 2
Default Re: 1990 Civic HB DX Wont pass emissions

Originally Posted by N3va3vaSatisfi3d
Why would any of that help a code 12?
It won't. You don't have to fix your CEL in order to pass emissions in most states if your pre 96.
Reply
Old Jan 23, 2012 | 10:39 AM
  #13  
OneBadTurboCRV's Avatar
DO IT ON ALL FOURS
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 7,632
Likes: 15
From: IN Your Mind
Default Re: 1990 Civic HB DX Wont pass emissions

I am well aware of that, but if he has a code AND isn't passing emissions (especially since practically all codes are directly connected to failing emissions), why wouldn't he want to fix it? It certainly isn't going to help him pass emissions easier. Most states just make you sign a consent form anytime ANY light is on in the gauge cluster. This just covers their own to be sure you agree they didn't do anything to make the light come on and you drove in with it that way.

If something has to do directly with hydrocarbons - like the O2 for instance - I am pretty sure it would be wise to fix it.
Reply
Old Jan 26, 2012 | 04:53 PM
  #14  
cnowak's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 26
Likes: 0
Default Re: 1990 Civic HB DX Wont pass emissions

I do not have a CEL on my dash but my ECU is throwing code 1 which is 02 sensor which I just replaced with the top of the line model, but I am still getting the code on my ECU so I thought that maybe my Cat Converter was so dirty that it was causing the sensor to misread so I replaced my cat converter w/ a direct replacement not a High flow one which I am kind of regretting now. also when I first start my car water spits out of the tailpipe and the exhaust smells like unburned gasoline for the first few minutes...please any suggestions on what to troubleshoot or what could be causing me to fail would be much appreciated I need to be able to drive my car and until I can pass emissions im unable to so please help......PLEASE
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Blatin
Honda Civic (2001 - 2005)
6
Jul 5, 2011 05:16 PM
Whatislove
Honda Civic (2001 - 2005)
9
Jan 7, 2010 10:50 PM
pingaturbo
Tech / Misc
2
Mar 23, 2009 01:46 PM
teggytegteg
Tech / Misc
6
May 30, 2005 04:40 PM
HmgLauj69
Tech / Misc
3
Jul 8, 2004 10:59 PM




All times are GMT -8. The time now is 04:59 PM.