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Old Jan 18, 2012 | 01:59 AM
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Default does this look like a 12.5:1 cr setup (b16)?

bought a rebuilt b16 block from a friend all assembled and ready to go
he's not entirely sure of the exact cr either...he also bought it like this and lost the spec sheet.
just wanted to see what some experienced engine builders (obviously, i am not one) think the cr is around.
its going to get a stock b16 head (and internals) for now but i also have some s2s2 cams and valvetrain on standby if it is deemed safe to run such.
any ideas?
block has b16 supertech pistons (was told will yield 12.5:1 with b16 head), eagle rods, arp, etc..
some told me from pics that these look higher than claimed.
on supertech's website the highest ots pistons for a b16 is 11:1
so i take that these are custom ordered then?
any help/input is appreciated
i dont expect a definitive answer. just maybe confirmation that these aren't super crazy pistons like 13 or 14:1 lol

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Old Jan 18, 2012 | 02:06 AM
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Default Re: does this look like a 12.5:1 cr setup (b16)?

They look 12:1 - 12:5 to me...
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Old Jan 18, 2012 | 04:11 AM
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cool. thats 1.
thank you for your response
anyone else agree or disagree?
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Old Jan 18, 2012 | 04:22 AM
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Without a part number for those pistons its impossible to tell by looking. CTR pistons look similar to that installed and they would be 11:1. Other than that you'd have to CC chambers with the head on.
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Old Jan 18, 2012 | 04:23 AM
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They could be custom.
http://www.supertechperformance.com/custom_pistons.html

Dome look similar to Wiseco K593.
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Old Jan 18, 2012 | 04:36 AM
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Battle -even w/ a good tune u may still have to worry about using pump gas.
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Old Jan 18, 2012 | 05:07 AM
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Default Re: does this look like a 12.5:1 cr setup (b16)?

Originally Posted by 00Red_SiR
Without a part number for those pistons its impossible to tell by looking. CTR pistons look similar to that installed and they would be 11:1. Other than that you'd have to CC chambers with the head on.
Actually, your totally right. That was just a complete guess what i give.
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Old Jan 18, 2012 | 08:27 AM
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bingo! one of my buddies actually said they do look like PCTs too.
its my first semi-built engine (im more of a stock-with-bolt-ons kinda guy) so im a little apprehensive lol
thanks for your input fellas
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Old Jan 18, 2012 | 12:58 PM
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Those are not ctr's.
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Old Jan 18, 2012 | 02:55 PM
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Default Re: does this look like a 12.5:1 cr setup (b16)?

11.4789-1 visually.
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Old Jan 18, 2012 | 03:03 PM
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looks kinda high bro. just clay it to be sure.

and use the s2s2 cams, or if you can find a pro1/rm m21 better try to use those instead, you will be happy to use cams with big primaries on the circuit with a b16a
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Old Jan 18, 2012 | 03:51 PM
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on a b16 they dont go past 11....remeneber ctr pistons yield 10.8 compression on a b16b...and 13+ on a gsr
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Old Jan 18, 2012 | 04:36 PM
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Default Re: does this look like a 12.5:1 cr setup (b16)?

Originally Posted by cibao2ner
on a b16 they dont go past 11....remeneber ctr pistons yield 10.8 compression on a b16b...and 13+ on a gsr
CTR pistons do not yield 13+ on a GSR. Ask me how I know. Plese don't just spout stuff you don't know.
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Old Jan 18, 2012 | 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by zap
looks kinda high bro. just clay it to be sure.

and use the s2s2 cams, or if you can find a pro1/rm m21 better try to use those instead, you will be happy to use cams with big primaries on the circuit with a b16a
hey joel!
thanks man. i'll look into all that.
just looking for consensus these aren't crazy high slugs lol
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Old Jan 18, 2012 | 05:02 PM
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They have a pretty high dome, as suggested, definitely check your clearances with clay. They aren't crazy looking tho, only thing you can really do is CC it and see what you're working with. Also, remove them and check on the underside for a Part Number.
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Old Jan 18, 2012 | 05:12 PM
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Default Re: does this look like a 12.5:1 cr setup (b16)?

Originally Posted by cibao2ner
on a b16 they dont go past 11....remeneber ctr pistons yield 10.8 compression on a b16b...and 13+ on a gsr
lol 13+?
more like 11.5 in a p72 dude
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Old Jan 18, 2012 | 05:36 PM
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Default Re: does this look like a 12.5:1 cr setup (b16)?

Originally Posted by thenoxus1
They have a pretty high dome, as suggested, definitely check your clearances with clay. They aren't crazy looking tho, only thing you can really do is CC it and see what you're working with. Also, remove them and check on the underside for a Part Number.
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Old Jan 19, 2012 | 09:24 AM
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Default Re: does this look like a 12.5:1 cr setup (b16)?

Originally Posted by cibao2ner
on a b16 they dont go past 11....remeneber ctr pistons yield 10.8 compression on a b16b...and 13+ on a gsr
The shorter deck height of the B16a gives it a higher compression ratio that is around 11.5:1, using those pistons.

On a GSR with a P72 head, you'd be in the high 12's (12.5-12.9:1) range and wouldn't go into the 13+ unless you were using the LS block/crank/rods.

Originally Posted by tnxx
Those are not ctr's.
No one said they were. It was acknowledged that CTR pistons have a similar dome and would look similar when installed. That's why guessing what the compression ratio would be by visually looking at the crowns isn't very accurate.
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Old Jan 19, 2012 | 10:41 AM
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high 12s on a gsr to low 13:1 isnt a big difference....but its defitnetly not 11:1.....but those pistons are less than 11.5 :1 on a b16 unless its a stroked block...so you should be safe...you need some custom pistons for 13+ on a b16...
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Old Jan 19, 2012 | 11:52 AM
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Clay it already.... This guessing **** is getting old..

*Edit*. I do realize that I sound as though someone pissed in my corn flakes this morning.. but my message is clear
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