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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 03:44 PM
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Hey guys im new to this site because i picked up a Del Sol.... When it was brought over it looked pretty nice then i got into the car and found alot of work.. it has a D16Z6 Vtec... Without Vtec hookup and no Vtec ECU. the wiring is half *** and visable.. light damage to front bumper and paint is peeling cause it was sitting and no one was taking care of it.. it this car worth building? i dont know much about del sols. this thing can kinda move but im not an exper when dealing with hondas. just kinda need some imput and see what kinda headache im going to be jumping into.

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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 03:53 PM
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That doesn't seem like very much work at all. Better start then most get. What did you pay for it?
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 04:07 PM
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i didnt pay anything my friend owed me 6 bills and this is what he left at my door. and thats just the small things like the drop is a half *** drop and doesnt ride smooth at all. i dont mind building it and learning hondas but i wanna know if a del sol is worth the cash and time.
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 04:12 PM
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Ya idk man that's really up to you. You like del sol's? If thats not your first choice of a honda you could probably get a decent amount for it and put that towards your next vehicle. I have a similar type of build that i've been slowly putting money into for years now but I love the car. Depends on if its worth it to you.
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 04:21 PM
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yeah idk it really doesnt fall under my "expertise" lol. i mean it s a 4 cylender honda i have a 96 camaro with a supercharged LS3 swap with 580bhp then a s14 with a rb26dett lol. i mean the del sol is a nice lil car, but i wanna know if it can move lol
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 04:24 PM
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to answer your question briefly. yes.
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 04:30 PM
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to answer your question briefly. yes.
should i stick with the d16z6 or go up to a b series motor? and do you know of anyone swapping the del sol to rwd?
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 04:32 PM
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Stop it right there. You don't know if the car is worth rebuilding and you're thinking of doing a rear wheel drive conversion?
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 04:41 PM
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should i stick with the d16z6 or go up to a b series motor? and do you know of anyone swapping the del sol to rwd?
Im going to ignore the rwd question lol but if you want big power ditch the d series and talk to a shop about building and tuning you a nice b-series
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 04:41 PM
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Stop it right there. You don't know if the car is worth rebuilding and you're thinking of doing a rear wheel drive conversion?
well i dont know anything about del sols like the negs or positives honestly i never really even noticed them till this one. and if i build it i might as well do something outta the box right? i mean i was just looking at a thread of a H22 mid engine awd convert and that kinda make me wanna do it but thats to much work lmao
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 08:00 PM
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just build the d and turbo it or swap a B and turbo it... Bet you can make it out run that camaro...
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 08:48 PM
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If you do build and you got deep pockets I would defiantly swap out the D and go with something better. There's tons of options. B, H2B, and K swaps all do really well in our cars.
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Old Jan 10, 2012 | 06:31 AM
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a turbo or heavy NA b20/h2b/k20 build will move. especially in a del sol. plus targa top. not to mention you got that car for basically a 1/3rd of what its really worth.

i'd be willing to bet itd outrun or hold up with your maro. when all is said and done.
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Old Jan 10, 2012 | 06:52 AM
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If you fancy yourself a fabricator, and don't mind getting your hands REALLY dirty, you could always pull the motor and drivetrain out of a Civic wagovan. 4WD Sol anyone?

In all seriousness though, not the best idea in the world. B swap it, boost it, and have some fun. The Sol probably weighs half of what your muscles do, and only needs half the power to go just as fast.
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Old Jan 10, 2012 | 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by AztecEGhatch
Im going to ignore the rwd question lol but if you want big power ditch the d series and talk to a shop about building and tuning you a nice b-series
The price of a B swap will net him a decent turbo kit and tune. The stock z6 can handle around 200whp, reliability will depend on your tune. Spanks any B-series swap. For another $500 you can get some forged rods and Vitaras and turn the boost up, I made 300whp on a built d16y8. Stock head, ebay manifold, I have about $1500 into the whole setup.

Also realize with a lot of horsepower you'll just be spinning everywhere. I don't have traction in 2nd with good summer tires (Yokohama S. Drives)
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Old Jan 10, 2012 | 08:38 AM
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The b16a2 came stock in that car in the vtec model, i'm going through the same swap debate right now myself. a gsr will fit, a ctr b16b will fit in it, or you could build the d16y8 and boost the hell out of it
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Old Jan 10, 2012 | 09:30 AM
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or you could put an h22a in it and have real fun. custom mounts will be worth the huge bump in power.

its one thing i wish i had done way back when i originally bought my motor.
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Old Jan 10, 2012 | 10:58 AM
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The price of a B swap will net him a decent turbo kit and tune. The stock z6 can handle around 200whp, reliability will depend on your tune. Spanks any B-series swap. For another $500 you can get some forged rods and Vitaras and turn the boost up, I made 300whp on a built d16y8. Stock head, ebay manifold, I have about $1500 into the whole setup.

Also realize with a lot of horsepower you'll just be spinning everywhere. I don't have traction in 2nd with good summer tires (Yokohama S. Drives)
Those prices are leaving out a lot of huge costs like machine work, gaskets, bearings, engine management and tuning, injectors, fuel pump, fpr, gauges, upgraded clutch, etc.

Originally Posted by 97 DelSol SI
The b16a2 came stock in that car in the vtec model, i'm going through the same swap debate right now myself. a gsr will fit, a ctr b16b will fit in it, or you could build the d16y8 and boost the hell out of it
b16a3 (edit, later del sols did have the a2.. i was wrong lol)

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Old Jan 10, 2012 | 05:11 PM
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so wait the b16 was the origanal engine in this car?? so someone used this stock and swaped their d16 into it before i got it?
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Old Jan 10, 2012 | 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by CaliDelSolSi
so wait the b16 was the origanal engine in this car?? so someone used this stock and swaped their d16 into it before i got it?
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Honda+Del+Sol

read the wiki or something
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Old Jan 10, 2012 | 05:50 PM
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i got a better idea how bout u write a bill of sale to me... and iill take it off your hands lol
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Old Jan 10, 2012 | 06:00 PM
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drop a boosted ls/vtec and call it a day.
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Old Jan 10, 2012 | 06:15 PM
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Those prices are leaving out a lot of huge costs like machine work, gaskets, bearings, engine management and tuning, injectors, fuel pump, fpr, gauges, upgraded clutch, etc.
Nope, that price includes everything.

FPR? gauges? Are you kidding me? my boost gauge and oil pressure gauge was $30 shipped. Stock FPR is just fine.

Built motor - $550 included ALL gaskets, bearings, machining etc.
Clutch is a Competition Stage 5 - $200
450cc dsm injectors - $50
Rebuilt T3 60 trim - $125
Ebay manifold - $50
Wastegate - $25
Feed/drain - had laying around
Piping, BOV - $100
Tuning/ECU - $500

Anything else you can think of? That's $1600 and you're good to 300whp, more if you upgrade the turbo. That's about the price of a...LS swap?

I don't know why I wasted my time typing this up, the OP is never going to do it anyways

Originally Posted by EJ2 clown
drop a boosted ls/vtec and call it a day.
That's so 2009, it's all about the J32 now
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Old Jan 10, 2012 | 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by flmzero13
i got a better idea how bout u write a bill of sale to me... and iill take it off your hands lol
thats some wishfull thinking lol.
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Old Jan 10, 2012 | 07:47 PM
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Nope, that price includes everything.

FPR? gauges? Are you kidding me? my boost gauge and oil pressure gauge was $30 shipped. Stock FPR is just fine.

Built motor - $550 included ALL gaskets, bearings, machining etc.
Clutch is a Competition Stage 5 - $200
450cc dsm injectors - $50
Rebuilt T3 60 trim - $125
Ebay manifold - $50
Wastegate - $25
Feed/drain - had laying around
Piping, BOV - $100
Tuning/ECU - $500

Anything else you can think of? That's $1600 and you're good to 300whp, more if you upgrade the turbo. That's about the price of a...LS swap?

I don't know why I wasted my time typing this up, the OP is never going to do it anyways



That's so 2009, it's all about the J32 now

dont know if that includes the pistons/rods too or the fmic but i dont want to start an argument about it. either way thats a solid budget build. jw what engine management are you running?
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