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Old Jan 2, 2012 | 09:13 PM
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I'm looking into a ls swap ( B18B ) into my 95 eg hatch.

I'm looking into what all i need for the swap?

And building options for the motor?

Cams? Valves? Springs? Retainers? Pistons? Intake Mani? Throttle Body?

Fuel Injectors? Fuel Rail? For a N/A Build.

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Old Jan 2, 2012 | 09:39 PM
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your limited in all motor on your b18b1, I would try and find a b18c1 .
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Old Jan 2, 2012 | 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Hidenplanvew
your limited in all motor on your b18b1, I would try and find a b18c1 .
The only reason why i wouldn't want to turbo it, is because i would want my motor too be reliable and last a long time. Too me it seems like a turbo, decreases the life span of a motor? So a N/A build would be reliable and get up and go.
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The only reason that a turbo would NOT be reliable is if you did do the turbo build right. Period. Your information is faulty.
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Old Jan 3, 2012 | 05:39 AM
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The only reason that a turbo would NOT be reliable is if you did do the turbo build right. Period. Your information is faulty.
OKay.. So let's say i turboed it.

I'm only in high school, so more in likely i'll be looking at ebay turbo kit's.
& yes i know there a 50/50 for there kits, but is there a way i could improve the reliabilty of the turbo, so i know it wouldn't just blow in a couple hundred miles? And what would be some good build options for my motor if i was going to turbo it.
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Old Jan 3, 2012 | 06:12 AM
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Old Jan 3, 2012 | 06:17 AM
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if you're gonna bother to take it apart and rebuild it, go ls/vtec. n/a ls is just an exercise in wasting money for little gains.

for most power per $$, i would piece together a turbo kit with good used parts. assuming the motor is healthy, it should hold at least 250whp no problem.
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Old Jan 3, 2012 | 06:23 AM
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First off stay away from Ebay turbo kits they will cost you more money in the long run. Best thing to do is to save up money and piece together a turbo kit with quality parts. About $2000-2500 will get you a nice turbo kit, fuel needs and tuning. a B series can do 300whp on pump gas no problem. Now if you want to go NA with the B18B1 to make any good power you will want to go with P30 pistons, Crower 404 cams, springs, retainers, some good head work is needed as the P75 head flows like crap (Vtec head is much better choice for NA), a good header and tuning. You will make around 200whp give or take and have spent at least 2 times the money compared to a turbo. For the money a good turbo kit is a cheaper way to make more power.
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So you're going to go with a 50/50 Ebay kit and you're asking about reliability? You've pretty much HALVED your "reliability" by doing it WRONG. An Ebay turbo kit is doing it wrong. The only way to ensure an Ebay turbo's reliability is to use it as a paperweight and get a real turbo.

You have options even going the cheaper route. You could get a used Greddy kit and you could run that on a stock block assuming you've checked that the block was healthy. Or you could do a cheap Vitara buildup of the block for less than a grand and then shop for turbo parts bit by bit until the kit was complete but you might as well just save your money if you're talking Ebay.
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Old Jan 3, 2012 | 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by nealnanoHX
First off stay away from Ebay turbo kits they will cost you more money in the long run. Best thing to do is to save up money and piece together a turbo kit with quality parts. About $2000-2500 will get you a nice turbo kit, fuel needs and tuning. a B series can do 300whp on pump gas no problem. Now if you want to go NA with the B18B1 to make any good power you will want to go with P30 pistons, Crower 404 cams, springs, retainers, some good head work is needed as the P75 head flows like crap (Vtec head is much better choice for NA), a good header and tuning. You will make around 200whp give or take and have spent at least 2 times the money compared to a turbo. For the money a good turbo kit is a cheaper way to make more power.

Websites? Maybe links to the n/a parts?
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Originally Posted by Hidenplanvew
I would try and find a b18c1 .
You should just save up.
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Old Jan 3, 2012 | 08:18 AM
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Google Crower. Ebay is a good place for P30 piston sets. But I dont think you are understanding. Saving up and slowing piecing a turbo kit is a better cheaper way to make power on a budget. For around $2000 you can make 300whp on boost, try to get 300whp for $2000 NA, not going to happen.
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Old Jan 3, 2012 | 07:13 PM
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cheap/reliable/fast.....pick two

if your looking for reliable-ness on a b18b non vtec

-b16/gsr/itr tranny. light flywheel & a good clutch.
-a good i/h/e setup + chip & tune.
-use newer 1996-2001 p75 cams.

going to be pretty quick & reliable as a DD.
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Old Jan 3, 2012 | 07:20 PM
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Driving a slow car quickly > Driving a fast car slowly....especially in high school.

think that over
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Old Jan 4, 2012 | 09:12 AM
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My turbo car is pretty reliable but the only thing ebay is the intercooler piping, bov's (ssqv x 2) and manifold. Im running a precision t67. I think stock motors are great with turbos if done right, not abused, and tuned correctly. I think turbos are the easiest way to make power. Remember just get s300 and you will never need another ECU
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Old Jan 4, 2012 | 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by EFPhilly
My turbo car is pretty reliable but the only thing ebay is the intercooler piping, bov's (ssqv x 2) and manifold. Im running a precision t67. I think stock motors are great with turbos if done right, not abused, and tuned correctly. I think turbos are the easiest way to make power. Remember just get s300 and you will never need another ECU
Could you give me a link to the S3000? and what's a good tune for a turbo ls?
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Google Hondata S300

Your second question requires a real tuner and a dyno.
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