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Old Dec 28, 2011 | 04:52 PM
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I have a 2000 Honda Accord Ex I wanna put either an H22(black top) or H23(blue top) and I was wondering if anyone knew the difference HP, Torque, etc...

I've typed in google and havent found anything except Wikipedia
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Old Dec 28, 2011 | 05:42 PM
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Well Wikipedia has some good info. H23 Blue top is basically a H23 (non vtec) with an H22 head.
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so should I just go with H22
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Old Dec 28, 2011 | 06:30 PM
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I did a H23A Bluetop VTEC swap in my prelude a few months ago. Easy swap. You can definitely feel the extra torque. It for sure feels quite a bit faster than the H22A is.

For an Accord, I would assume that the H23A would probably be the easier swap since you can just leave the intake manifold and driver's side mount bracket alone.

I used a H22 4TH gen trans for the slightly shorter gearing and I used a stock H22A4 ECU. Car runs beautiful.

I used the H22 USDM oil pump housing to mount the crank sensor. I would suggest doing that. I used the stock H22A4 distributor and electronics. I also used the H22A4 intake manifold since it was going onto a prelude.

For the extra $100, I think that the H23A is definitely worth it. Although, you lose the piston squirters that the H22A has. You can, however, take the piston squirters from the H22A and bolt them on. It's only a big deal if you're going to be tracking on a road course. Even then, it really shouldn't be a HUGE deal.

Just remember that with the stock ECU, you will have to watch your shift RPM. The ECU will let you rev to 8100. I wouldn't recommend going much past like 7500 or so.
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Old Dec 28, 2011 | 06:34 PM
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^Perfect info right here.
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Old Dec 28, 2011 | 06:44 PM
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nothing beats someone that has done it. Good info
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Old Dec 28, 2011 | 07:29 PM
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Thank you
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Old Dec 29, 2011 | 12:19 AM
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I still don't understand people that run their cars without a tune or the proper ECU for their engine.
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Old Dec 29, 2011 | 12:54 AM
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Well, my choice was to run a chipped ECU (homie don't play dat) or a tunable ECU. It wasn't that important to me. If the car ran badly with the H22 ECU, it'd be more of an issue. Honestly, it ran perfectly fine and made plenty of power. If you tuned it, I'm sure u could get some more power out of it though.
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Old Dec 29, 2011 | 08:45 AM
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i been looking at h23 blue tops for my accord. so what your saying is i can use my accord mounts on the h23a and call it a day?
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Old Dec 29, 2011 | 09:47 AM
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accord mounts will work on the drivers side I used the stock accord mount on both motors on the tranny side I had to redrill and tap the jdm h22 tranny and use washers under the mount to make the mount level
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Old Dec 29, 2011 | 11:00 AM
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H23 vtech blue top is a 2.3 and H22 black top is 2.2 right or wrong
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Old Dec 29, 2011 | 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by hondaaccordf23
H23 vtech blue top is a 2.3 and H22 black top is 2.2 right or wrong
Correct. No replacement for displacement!
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Old Dec 30, 2011 | 12:13 AM
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.1 is hardly worth that old expression.
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Old Dec 30, 2011 | 07:57 PM
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with the h23 vtech swap would you still change it to ob1?
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Old Dec 31, 2011 | 01:22 AM
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There's no need to change to OBD1. But you can. It's just a motor. You can change it to whatever OBD you want to.
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Old Dec 31, 2011 | 07:46 AM
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when putting in h22 ecu p13 do you have to change wiring

I've done research but ppl have done it differently that's why I ask and
I want swap to go good without problems
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