I am currently gathering pieces for a b18b1 turbo build and want to have some fun in the meantime. I currently have the stock d15b7 still in my bubble with 140,000 miles on it. It's got a newer tranny, clutch, plugs, dizzy ect and I'm gona slap a small t3/t4 turbo on it just for some fun. I'm running everything stock no tune or anything and prob set it to 5 or 6lbs. How long do you think this set up would last not beating on the engine and never shifting above say 5200 rpms? Thank you for any input

 

people run stock d16s on 8lbs all the time. check out d-series.org

 

the main think is you said "without a tune". Depends how you drive it and how long. When you get into boost is when you'll start running leaner and the stock ecu only compensates like 20%, which isn't very much. I say get everything rounded up and just drive it really hard on a Thursday or Friday afternoon and keep the tow truck on speed dial.

 

Call me when it blows up.

 

It will last partialy through one pull......tor gonna have to tune the b18 so use whatever programe u plan to use , use on the d15

It's 35 bucks for a chiping kit w/ basemap from xenocron.com or phearable.net.....dsm 450s are like 50......at a minimum run a basemap....

And just an FYI....they make internals for the Usdm d15s now.....hell I had a stock d15 running 13s in the quarter on a less than 1000 into the turbo setup

 

Well with stock everything like plugs, injector and tune you will be luck to make it down the street a few times under boost without blowing the motor. Larger fuel pump, injectors and tuning is a MUST for boosting a NA motor no matter how little psi you feed it. You should just save up, get the B18 and just turbo that motor if that is your plan. Just drive the D15 until you are ready to swap in the turbo B18.

 

8psi on what....

this motor is gonna go boom i love how people think that boosting is cheaper than swapping i thought that too until i actually did boost a civic

 

you have to do alotta research and make sure u have every part of the system u need for ur power goals are before turning up the boost. cold plugs are a big deal when it comes to boosting or any FI. boosting 8lbs on a small turbo isnt bad but a d15 isnt as strong as a d16 motor.

 

 

With no tune, not even a missing link and FMU, it will last half a pull.

A few guesses with crome (non-pro) and a wideband and you could probably do a few PSI using a saab/volvo/dsm junkyard turbo on a HF manifold & adapter plate. The stock fuel pump can do around 200whp with luck, much less with an FMU.

The good thing about boostin the D15 is you'll cut your teeth on a $50 motor vs a $500-1500 motor and get a better idea of what needs to be done w/o risking more expensive parts.

 

Do it, then when you're parting out your setup for cheap send me a PM

At the very least get a basemap from xenocron or another tuner. The D15 will make more power than your B18 swap, if you get it tuned.

 

Well I got 2 options as of now actually use my dsm 450s and ported td05 and actually just get something to tune it with until it blows or option B buy the turbo, manifold, piping an some other misc stuff for 50$ from a friend throw on a xenocron chip with a basemap for turbo for 35 and see how far that gets me lol. The only thing I need is my turbo lines and an intercooled. I planed on using the dsm parts for the b18 along with acouple other simple upgrades such as a Walbro fp, fpr/aem fuel rail, arp head studs, all new bearings and gaskets may even get a moroso turbo ready oil pan just because iv had friends with em and herd good things. It's a very mild build and it's really just to get me to point a to point b not using a **** ton of gas but is a blast to drive.

 

do it so you can blow it up and part it out

 

I will restate what I and obsessed have said

At a minimum...dsm 450s and a basemap

 

Even a basemap is sketchy to me, as no two turbo setups are the same. I like to think of them as guessmaps, with their only purpose being to get your car to your tuner, be it for street tuning or dyno tuning.

Also, the 450's with your stock pump, stock rail, and a simple fpr with a gauge will get you more power than most people think. I've achieved 245whp on those alone with an 80% duty cycle.

Just make sure however you decide to piece this thing together, invest in a good wideband with gauge so you'll know where your afrs are at all the time. You see more than a 12.2 afr while under boost at full throttle, you let out.

 

WTF!

Dood , just do it right on the D15 and quit being a cheapskate. Get a ****ing tune, get the right injectors, and sell the B18b! A basemap isnt going to do ****. its just to get you to the tuner. D15's can make decent power on boost if you do it right.

Im tired of seeing these threads where people do **** wrong to try and save a buck.

Better yet, just sell the whole car and everything to someone who will do it right.

Edit: i have a brand new Mishimoto FMIC in box for sale if you decide your going to do it right.

 

the guy doesn't give a s*it about his car its like building a junkyard turbo set up im sorry but using used turbo parts is kind of dumb... do it right the first time is my opinion

 

yea.. poor civic doesnt know what its in for.. :facepalm:

 

I don't see anything wrong with using previously used parts BUT the overall plan here is ***. I wouldn't waste my time advising because it's OBVIOUS he's going to do it anyway. He just wants someone to tell him it's all okay.

 

there is noting in using used parts but in the terms of junkyard stuff i wouldn't use it unless it was rebuilt like a turbo i just dont trust people around here in boosting hondas ive seen one at the junkyard it was like a joke under the hood wires lines everywhere stock injectors cracked manifodl complete ebay bs i did get some S2 goodies from it though

 

^ you can use the DSM side mounts, BOV, and if the turbo doesn't have excessive shaftplay/spins fine and the blades look good I don't see why you wouldn't run it. Hf manifold + adapter to DSM turbo for the ultimate junkyard setup

Simple upgrades like new bearings, gaskets, and a moroso oil pan? That's how I know you're not going to do anything but brag online to e-buddies.

 

DSM side mount? I think he'd have better iats using a small egay fmic. Either way, if he pieces together a kit for the D, he'll be replacing or re-fabricating most of the parts to make it work with a B swap. Everybody wants instant gratification though, even when it means spending more money.

 

wtf?

stock ecu?
stock injectors?
turbo?

must be troll