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Old Oct 20, 2011 | 09:39 AM
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Hey guys, so I ordered progress CS-II 350f/250r coilovers for my LS the other night and was wondering which rear sway bar should be paired up with this setup because I am not sure which kit has the best to offer.

I've looked into Progress's 22mm, ASR's 24mm, and Beak's 22mm rear sway bars. It would be great to hear input from anyone that had experience with either of these products.

I think i'm mostly aiming for either the Progress or Beak's since 24mm from ASR seems like overkill for me, especially with the front sway bar being stock.
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Old Oct 20, 2011 | 09:50 AM
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Match the Progress coilovers to the Progess bar.
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Old Oct 20, 2011 | 10:29 AM
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I had the progress setup a couple of 7 years ago (front and rear) and it was great for driving around town. I had the ASR more recently (with F&F Type 1s) and it was extremly stiff. Great sway bar, especially with the Quaife diff....but it is much firmer than the progress setup.
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Old Oct 20, 2011 | 11:08 AM
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I run a Suspension Techniques (original, not the newer ST branding) 7/8" rear bar and heim joint end links with CS-II 350/350. Great setup. Progressive oversteer. I do run the Progress trailing arm bushings as well. Highly reccomend.
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Old Oct 20, 2011 | 01:42 PM
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Honestly, you would probably do fine with a stock ITR rear sway bar. They are either 21mm or 22mm, I can't remember off the top of my head. Getting everything brand new from the dealer isn't all that expensive either. The total is a good bit less than a progress or ASR, which are the only two brands I would ever use outside of a custom setup. I think I have a parts list with part numbers. Let me look.

Here you go: http://hondaswap.com/reference-mater...ts-list-29096/
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Old Oct 20, 2011 | 04:12 PM
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Save some money and go with the ITR and Beaks RSB. I had the BSQ kit and it worked well for me. Bsq is pretty much the same concept as the Beaks. I spent a total of about $140.
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Old Oct 20, 2011 | 04:24 PM
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what is the BSQ kit?

i think the total price for a ITR sway bar new with all the hardware was around $140. does it directly bolt onto an LS or do i have to drill some holes to make it fit?
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Old Oct 20, 2011 | 06:42 PM
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i have the whole ASR rear subfram brace along with the 24mm sway bar and adjustable endlinks and i love it. I didnt have the sway bar hooked up before and now with this setup its so tight. im also running ksport kontrol coilovers
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Old Oct 20, 2011 | 08:19 PM
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Default Re: Progress vs. ASR vs. BEAK's RSB

Originally Posted by Kennyjai
what is the BSQ kit?

i think the total price for a ITR sway bar new with all the hardware was around $140. does it directly bolt onto an LS or do i have to drill some holes to make it fit?
Just get this. http://www.beaksproducts.com/DC_Quick_Swap.htm

or

http://www.beaksproducts.com/SRK_EG_...nforcement.htm
http://hondaswap.com/reference-mater...ts-list-29096/

W/e is cheaper.

BSQ info and ITR installation.

https://honda-tech.com/forums/suspension-brakes-54/beaks-vs-bsq-reinforcement-kit-1261125/
http://www.team-integra.net/forum/bl...tallation.html

Edit: Just get the Beaks kit. You don't need ASR.

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Old Oct 21, 2011 | 07:33 AM
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Default Re: Progress vs. ASR vs. BEAK's RSB

so the SRK-EG/DC - SUBFRAME REINFORCEMENT KIT prevents the subframe from tearing out ...but what if i just bought ITR rear sway bar and harware from the dealer..should i worry about my subframe tearing out ?

Last edited by Kennyjai; Oct 21, 2011 at 07:38 AM. Reason: nevermind, it has everything i need.
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Old Oct 21, 2011 | 07:56 AM
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yes. non-itr's dont have reinforcement in that area from the factory to handle the larger bars.
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Old Oct 24, 2011 | 06:28 PM
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Hmmmm just happened to think, while we're on the subject, how safe would it be to run a stock Itr rear bar on a non-itr integra with the BSQ/beaks kit? Obviously the ASR subframe kit is the way to go, but I really don't want the bling factor that the ASR gives off.
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Old Oct 24, 2011 | 08:31 PM
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Default Re: Progress vs. ASR vs. BEAK's RSB

Originally Posted by 1998GsRIntegra
Hmmmm just happened to think, while we're on the subject, how safe would it be to run a stock Itr rear bar on a non-itr integra with the BSQ/beaks kit? Obviously the ASR subframe kit is the way to go, but I really don't want the bling factor that the ASR gives off.
It's perfectly safe. There's multiple members that have been running it for years. I've been on mine with cs-2's for a while and I drive my car hard every time I'm in it. Bsq doesn't make stuff anymore so you just have to buy the beaks kit. DO NOT buy a beaks lower tie bar. It's useless with a sway bar. Just bling. Asr brace is nice but not worth it honestly. Also a lot of importers sell just the sway bar with hardware. I got mine through jdm speedworx for like $100 shipped and then the beaks kit for $50 off a member.
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Old Oct 24, 2011 | 09:48 PM
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Default Re: Progress vs. ASR vs. BEAK's RSB

I have heard of one case of a subframe tearing out with BSQ-style reinforcement, but that was on a car with track spring rates being driven on the track. If you want to save money, don't want bling, or aren't concerned with the minor reinforcement that an ASR bar provides, a Beaks reinforcement kit is perfectly fine.
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Old Oct 25, 2011 | 12:40 PM
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Default Re: Progress vs. ASR vs. BEAK's RSB

Ok, thanks for the info guys. I had planned on putting an ITR rear sway bar on my gsr this winter. I've been going back and forth about using the asr brace. I definitly didn't want it because of the bling factor, but I was kind of worried about subframe tear-out. Glad to hear I'll be ok with the beaks kit.

Side note: I wouldn't be caught dead with a beaks rear tie bar. Nothing but bling.
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Old Oct 26, 2011 | 09:59 AM
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Yes. I had the BSQ on my RS for over a year and it was fine for DD with OTS GC/Koni. People without experience please keep it out/quiet. I will soon run the BEAKS reinforcement kit on my EG/EH.
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