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Old Aug 12, 2011 | 01:32 PM
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i want to ask how i must advance the cam gears of my b-series all motor
i have mill the head 9/10
i use mr gasket 0.030 gasket
how i must advance ?
i must subtract the oem gasket thickness from the aftermarket and the result add to the mill head ???
i know for each 0.040 mill i must advance 1 cam degree is that right ?
and when i must advance at the end ?i must degree my cams as manufacture says the centerlines and at the end i must add the advance number for the mill i do ???
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Old Aug 12, 2011 | 01:45 PM
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It would help if we knew what 9/10 was. Are you saying the head was milled .090" or are you saying it was milled .010"? There's a huge difference. A .030" gasket is considered to be stock thickness so no changes need to be factored in for that. If you degree in your cams you won't have to worry where to add or subtract cam degrees since they will end up where the end up.
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Old Aug 14, 2011 | 06:56 AM
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my problem my friend as i told you is that i do not know the centerline of blox type c cams and i find it but i have mill the head about 1mm and i believe that the engine retard so when i degree the cams in the centerlines i found i must then advance cause of the head mill is that right ???and you do not answer me about find centerline process is right ?read my post again and please answer me i think is in the section all motor ar drag thanks i wait
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Old Aug 14, 2011 | 11:44 AM
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I wish I could help you better but I don't really understand fully, what you're asking or saying. If you're looking for degree specs, see if you can find them for the Jun 3 cams as they will be the same.
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Old Aug 15, 2011 | 03:03 PM
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00red sir tell me your opinion look i know finally the jun 3 centerline for each lobe (primary (i can not set for primary cause i have do job to primarys cause the cams have problem )vtec (i can not set to vtec cause i do not lock vtec and the engine is assembled now -and secondarys ,i know secondarys lift for intake and exhayst and the centerline i think is the same for all lobes 110 degrees so the best is to set the cams at secondary lobes with 110 degrees centerline and max lift at intake at 9mm and exh ath 6.2mm as say jun ? but when the engine get to vtec is different max lifts and i will do not see if i have any problems at those lifts with valves and blox max lift is at 12.2 int and 11.6 ath exh so i think the best i have to do is to find centerline with the process i told you and see at secondarys if at the centerline have the specific lift blox say or else i must adjust it thanks tell me your opinion
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Old Aug 15, 2011 | 03:49 PM
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I'd like to hear your opinion also Red
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Old Aug 15, 2011 | 03:51 PM
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lol...I wish I could help but I just don't understand what he's fully saying...
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Old Aug 15, 2011 | 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by fuel..
00red sir tell me your opinion look i know finally the jun 3 centerline for each lobe (primary (i can not set for primary cause i have do job to primarys cause the cams have problem )vtec (i can not set to vtec cause i do not lock vtec and the engine is assembled now -and secondarys ,i know secondarys lift for intake and exhayst and the centerline i think is the same for all lobes 110 degrees so the best is to set the cams at secondary lobes with 110 degrees centerline and max lift at intake at 9mm and exh ath 6.2mm as say jun ? but when the engine get to vtec is different max lifts and i will do not see if i have any problems at those lifts with valves and blox max lift is at 12.2 int and 11.6 ath exh so i think the best i have to do is to find centerline with the process i told you and see at secondarys if at the centerline have the specific lift blox say or else i must adjust it thanks tell me your opinion
Let me try to translate...

"00 Red sir, lemme know whatcha think dawg... I finally found the Jun 3 centerlines, but I cant set them because I lost my job. The cams also appear to have a problem. The engine is assembled, but I'm unsure how to lock VTEC. Can I set the centerlines of the primary (non vtec) lobes to the 110* centerline? I think they're the same as the vtec lobes. I set the valvelash to 9mm intake and 6.2mm exhaust. I am comparing my Jun 3 cams centerlines to blox cams centerlines since they're almost the same cam, right?
So basically I want to set the Jun cams to Blox specs but using the smaller primary lobes, not the vtec lobes. Oh, and the girl next door finally gave up the goods to me, what a night!!!"
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Old Aug 15, 2011 | 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by PyroProblem
Let me try to translate...

"00 Red sir, lemme know whatcha think dawg... I finally found the Jun 3 centerlines, but I cant set them because I lost my job. The cams also appear to have a problem. The engine is assembled, but I'm unsure how to lock VTEC. Can I set the centerlines of the primary (non vtec) lobes to the 110* centerline? I think they're the same as the vtec lobes. I set the valvelash to 9mm intake and 6.2mm exhaust. I am comparing my Jun 3 cams centerlines to blox cams centerlines since they're almost the same cam, right?
So basically I want to set the Jun cams to Blox specs but using the smaller primary lobes, not the vtec lobes. Oh, and the girl next door finally gave up the goods to me, what a night!!!"
lmao
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Old Aug 15, 2011 | 06:30 PM
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hahahahaha....I'm laughing hysterically and I feel guilty for it! Ya, I can't realy help there...
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Old Aug 15, 2011 | 06:37 PM
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OP what is your native language??

Im sure we have members here that can translate

Im just playin
We try and help you now!
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Old Aug 16, 2011 | 04:17 PM
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mr pyroproblem ha ha haaaa very funny !!! you are the smart guy ???who are you ? i am sure you do not know anthing about honda engine ,now you have your first honda ???or second ???ha ha haaa i have change 5 honda i have built a powerfull b series that you never see those hp on your dreams if you are too smart answer to my question cause you do not even know the centerline of the cams how to know to tune hahahahaaaa very funny
if you want i can sell you some parts to see a little power under your foots
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Old Aug 16, 2011 | 04:34 PM
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Mother of God.. *from supertroopers*
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Old Aug 16, 2011 | 04:34 PM
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That would be great and all, but the problem were having is with the language barrier. I am not trying to make fun of you, I was just messin with Sir. Dont take offence

Please restate the original question. You want to set your Jun 3 camshaft to Blox specs???
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Old Aug 16, 2011 | 04:40 PM
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What kinda performance parts you got in your country?
I have lots of cool USDM that might interest you!
Possible trades???
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Old Aug 17, 2011 | 04:00 AM
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This is just to much for me.
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