mh 205/60/13 dot slicks, tried them? chime in
if you or some one you know has ran these slicks please chime in as to how well they did or did not work, your power level and 60fts ect would be nice. if you have used mh or mt 22s or 23s and can compare how well these work compared to those that would be nice too.
We had a local "street tire" series where the rules were pretty loose: doors, pass tech and run d.o.t. tires. We chose the 205-60-13 to utilize the 22-ish inch diameter to work with our hp (512 whp), gearing and final drive.
We did our best pass in May of 2008
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60' 1.82
330' 4.938
1/8 7.325
mph 103.84
1000' 9.315
1/4 10.989
mph 134.47
Starting psi was 8.75 on the tires. You give up alot in traction (see video below) but the tradeoff is 'just enough grip and it's easy on axles. We have over 300 passes on stock axles......yep, I said stock axles.

Here's the write-up for various racing websites from our local Dragracing guru, Bret Kepner:
MAY 6th, 2008 STLSR.COM SPORT TUNER SHOWDOWN FINAL ROUND
Pos Name Hometown ST Vehicle R.T. ET MPH
W Adam Corbitt, St. Charles, MO 1985 123 Golf Gti 0.105 11.018 132.74
RU Steve Gasich, Jr., Arnold, MO 1986 152 Mustang -0.002 (foul) 10.925 125.68
While performances were incredibly fast in the SCSS, the numbers emanating from the St. Louis Street Racing.com Sport Tuner Showdown were absolutely insane. In what was the quickest qualified field of Tuners in the history of the class, records and career-bests were almost routine during the official qualifying period. It was the popular Corbitt Brothers who eventually made history not only in winning the event but resetting their own SCSS Front-Wheel-Drive Records and achieving a long-sought goal.
The familiar Polk Audio ‘85 Volkswagen Golf GTi stunned the fans with an early timed trials which posted an 11.21 at an incredible 135.31 mph! While the speed gave an indication of the power on tap, the St. Charles, Missouri, duo returned in the official qualifying session to clock the SCSS’s first FWD run under eleven seconds with a brilliant 10.98 at 134.47 mph and backed up the performance with an 11.02 at an even faster 134.87 mph for a new FWD Speed Record.
Incredibly, the 10.98 record-breaker only qualified Adam Corbitt third in the Tuner Showdown. It was the ultimate street-tire four-cylinder, Jon Huber’s incredible turbocharged ’79 Mustang now utilizing a smaller 160-cubic inch powerplant, which rocked the house with towering wheelstands and a best of 9.26 at 151.99 mph. Incredibly, yet another four-banger Mustang qualified behind the renowned silver version. Steve Gasich, whose father has campaigned eight-second V8 Mustangs for years, debuted his 153-inch ‘86 SVO Mustang with a 10.85/125.82 which outpaced Corbitt. “This isn’t quite like Huber’s car”, noted Gasich. “I use a much smaller 74mm turbo and I have a factory-produced cylinder head and engine block. The car was actually built to run Open Comp Eliminator in the National Mustang Racers Association but it works well on street tires”.
Behind Corbitt was a magnificent list of Tuner machinery. Two-time Tuner Showdown winner Phil Hoback, the St. Louisan who now attends college in Florida, returned home for a vacation and pushed his turbocharged ‘93 Mazda RX7 to the new season’s best rotary-powered numbers at a best-ever 11.20/131.93 for fourth position. Adnan Omerovic, the winningest Tuner Showdown pilot with his turbocharged two-litre ‘95 Eagle Talon, cruised to a cautious 11.22 at an impressive 139.53 mph. Kyle Ellerbeck’s stout ‘06 Mitsubishi Evo clocked a 12.13/114.30 and Mani Otero again had the quickest of the Subaru Impreza WRX GTi at 13.22/105.54. Of note was Dustin Weber’s ‘93 Mitsubishi Eclipse turbo car which ran 13.33 at a strong 117.70 mph.
Initially, Huber elected to run the Sport Tuner Showdown program only despite the fact he’d also qualified for the Street Car Shootout. Concerned with a workable combination for the upcoming World Street Challenge, Huber eventually decided against running the final round which allowed Corbitt to run in the championship dash as an alternate. Only thirteen hundredths of a second from second qualifer Gasich in elapsed time, many Tuner aficionados knew Adam Corbitt’s reaction times could be the deciding factor; he’d nailed a 0.003-second RT on his historic 10.98!
When the Mustang and the VW staged for the final round, however, Gasich had plans of his own for a starting line advantage. Unfortunately, the Arnold, Missouri, Ford racer also entered the SCSS record books in the title match; his redlight start by a mere two thousandths of a second was the closest foul in series history. His 10.92/125.68 might have been good enough to win but the trophy had already been handed to Corbitt’s consistent 11.01/132.74. “We’ve learned a lot about how to properly heat these M&H tires”, said team manager Dave Corbitt during the trophy presentation in front of the main grandstand, “and they work really well now. We were recently named M&H’s Racer of the Month and that recognition has been nice. Now that we’re in the tens, I’m sure the M&H folks will be just as happy as we are. This was also a big win because we just picked up Dub Werks as a sponsor. We’ve added a slightly stronger transmission and it seems to be holding up well. We still can’t afford an automatic but we’re making do with what we’ve got”.
This video isn't of the race above but it gives you an idea of what to expect.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CS6S...eature=related
We did our best pass in May of 2008
reaction .003
60' 1.82
330' 4.938
1/8 7.325
mph 103.84
1000' 9.315
1/4 10.989
mph 134.47
Starting psi was 8.75 on the tires. You give up alot in traction (see video below) but the tradeoff is 'just enough grip and it's easy on axles. We have over 300 passes on stock axles......yep, I said stock axles.

Here's the write-up for various racing websites from our local Dragracing guru, Bret Kepner:
MAY 6th, 2008 STLSR.COM SPORT TUNER SHOWDOWN FINAL ROUND
Pos Name Hometown ST Vehicle R.T. ET MPH
W Adam Corbitt, St. Charles, MO 1985 123 Golf Gti 0.105 11.018 132.74
RU Steve Gasich, Jr., Arnold, MO 1986 152 Mustang -0.002 (foul) 10.925 125.68
While performances were incredibly fast in the SCSS, the numbers emanating from the St. Louis Street Racing.com Sport Tuner Showdown were absolutely insane. In what was the quickest qualified field of Tuners in the history of the class, records and career-bests were almost routine during the official qualifying period. It was the popular Corbitt Brothers who eventually made history not only in winning the event but resetting their own SCSS Front-Wheel-Drive Records and achieving a long-sought goal.
The familiar Polk Audio ‘85 Volkswagen Golf GTi stunned the fans with an early timed trials which posted an 11.21 at an incredible 135.31 mph! While the speed gave an indication of the power on tap, the St. Charles, Missouri, duo returned in the official qualifying session to clock the SCSS’s first FWD run under eleven seconds with a brilliant 10.98 at 134.47 mph and backed up the performance with an 11.02 at an even faster 134.87 mph for a new FWD Speed Record.
Incredibly, the 10.98 record-breaker only qualified Adam Corbitt third in the Tuner Showdown. It was the ultimate street-tire four-cylinder, Jon Huber’s incredible turbocharged ’79 Mustang now utilizing a smaller 160-cubic inch powerplant, which rocked the house with towering wheelstands and a best of 9.26 at 151.99 mph. Incredibly, yet another four-banger Mustang qualified behind the renowned silver version. Steve Gasich, whose father has campaigned eight-second V8 Mustangs for years, debuted his 153-inch ‘86 SVO Mustang with a 10.85/125.82 which outpaced Corbitt. “This isn’t quite like Huber’s car”, noted Gasich. “I use a much smaller 74mm turbo and I have a factory-produced cylinder head and engine block. The car was actually built to run Open Comp Eliminator in the National Mustang Racers Association but it works well on street tires”.
Behind Corbitt was a magnificent list of Tuner machinery. Two-time Tuner Showdown winner Phil Hoback, the St. Louisan who now attends college in Florida, returned home for a vacation and pushed his turbocharged ‘93 Mazda RX7 to the new season’s best rotary-powered numbers at a best-ever 11.20/131.93 for fourth position. Adnan Omerovic, the winningest Tuner Showdown pilot with his turbocharged two-litre ‘95 Eagle Talon, cruised to a cautious 11.22 at an impressive 139.53 mph. Kyle Ellerbeck’s stout ‘06 Mitsubishi Evo clocked a 12.13/114.30 and Mani Otero again had the quickest of the Subaru Impreza WRX GTi at 13.22/105.54. Of note was Dustin Weber’s ‘93 Mitsubishi Eclipse turbo car which ran 13.33 at a strong 117.70 mph.
Initially, Huber elected to run the Sport Tuner Showdown program only despite the fact he’d also qualified for the Street Car Shootout. Concerned with a workable combination for the upcoming World Street Challenge, Huber eventually decided against running the final round which allowed Corbitt to run in the championship dash as an alternate. Only thirteen hundredths of a second from second qualifer Gasich in elapsed time, many Tuner aficionados knew Adam Corbitt’s reaction times could be the deciding factor; he’d nailed a 0.003-second RT on his historic 10.98!
When the Mustang and the VW staged for the final round, however, Gasich had plans of his own for a starting line advantage. Unfortunately, the Arnold, Missouri, Ford racer also entered the SCSS record books in the title match; his redlight start by a mere two thousandths of a second was the closest foul in series history. His 10.92/125.68 might have been good enough to win but the trophy had already been handed to Corbitt’s consistent 11.01/132.74. “We’ve learned a lot about how to properly heat these M&H tires”, said team manager Dave Corbitt during the trophy presentation in front of the main grandstand, “and they work really well now. We were recently named M&H’s Racer of the Month and that recognition has been nice. Now that we’re in the tens, I’m sure the M&H folks will be just as happy as we are. This was also a big win because we just picked up Dub Werks as a sponsor. We’ve added a slightly stronger transmission and it seems to be holding up well. We still can’t afford an automatic but we’re making do with what we’ve got”.
This video isn't of the race above but it gives you an idea of what to expect.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CS6S...eature=related
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arent these actually closer to a 23 inch tire? 22.9 i think the site said? either way my hp goal is only low 400 and my et goal is 11.50, the 1.8 60 is kinda saddening was hoping for 1.7s but the fact they hook in the other gears is good. oh and it says you learned allot on how to heat them what technique do the tires seem to like best?
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Using a digital laser thermometer, we took the burnout temps to around 185* (on M&H John's suggestion). Depending on the diff in your car, check both sides for consistency. We learned what the smoke looks like at 185* so now we can just go out and "do it".
The rest is just preloading, launching, tracking data and looking for trends. Once you learn what is needed relative to pressures, temps, wear and driving characteristics, it becomes second nature.
The rest is just preloading, launching, tracking data and looking for trends. Once you learn what is needed relative to pressures, temps, wear and driving characteristics, it becomes second nature.
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