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Old Jun 1, 2011 | 09:08 AM
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Default f22b DOHC parts swap over

I just got a real good deal on a f22b. It is the OBD2 version and now I am looking for minor parts and I can't find Jack.

I only need a timing belt kit, valve cover gasket and a generic header.

All of this is going in a 92 Prelude that had a f22a1 for a stocker.


I looked around and I can't find anything. I thought the US H23 crap was all the same, but a JDM Place told me it's different and had no idea where I can get anything.

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Old Jun 1, 2011 | 09:54 AM
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Default Re: f22b DOHC parts issues

You should be able to use all the H23 DOHC non-VTEC stuff on an F22B DOHC non-VTEC. The heads and timing stuff are the same...
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Old Jun 1, 2011 | 09:57 AM
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Default Re: f22b DOHC parts issues

Not from what I read so far. From what I seen there is a slight tooth count difference.

I found the timing belt by itself on hondapartsnow (14400-PT2-004).

Kind of topic here, but. Would it really matter if I left the balancer shaft belt off?

Found this on here:

Originally Posted by viper-blue
I can add my own experiences: I used an h23 kit on my f22b. Everything fit fine. There is some slack, but no more slack than any other DOHC motor - I have compared my slack to GSR and base model B series dohcs, they all have that slack between the cams. The H23 water pump gear is actually one tooth smaller (19 teeth) compared to the F22b (20 teeth). The biggest part of tensioning the belt is manually pulling the tensioner tight with a clothes hanger or something else. The stock tensioner springs are what limit proper tension.

I agree on the lack of reliable information, and about all the posers spreading unverified information. Best to spend lots of time researching before buying parts.
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Old Jun 1, 2011 | 10:09 AM
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Default Re: f22b DOHC parts issues

Nah, leaving the balancer shaft belt off is fine. Most people do that.

The water pump possible having an extra tooth shouldn't make any difference.
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Old Jun 1, 2011 | 10:28 AM
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Default Re: f22b DOHC parts issues

What about the valve cover gasket, o rings and a header?

I see the cheapos on eGay, but they all say Accord. They should clear the Prelude too right?
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Old Jun 1, 2011 | 10:39 AM
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Default Re: f22b DOHC parts issues

H23 and F22B valve cover is the same except for the lettering, so same gaskets. It's the same with the header also....you are basically just going to shop for H23 DOHC non-VTEC parts for anything that bolts to the head. Megan makes a good H23 header for pretty cheap.
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Old Jun 1, 2011 | 11:09 AM
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Default Re: f22b DOHC parts issues

Nice, all good to know. . . . .

Kinda off topic, but as far as wiring goes. The motor I am getting is a OBD2, of course the car is a OBD1(or 0).

What are the differences? I rather use all the parts on the motor I am getting since I never had a complete motor in this car. It was just a short block with a bunch of parts thrown under the hood.
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Old Jun 1, 2011 | 12:08 PM
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Default Re: f22b DOHC parts issues

You should be able to swap over the OBD1 parts to the new OBD2 engine, but I am not 100% certain of the details. There should be several write-ups in our FAQ thread
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Old Jun 1, 2011 | 12:39 PM
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Cool, I'll keep looking.
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Old Jun 3, 2011 | 06:33 AM
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Default Re: f22b DOHC parts issues

So, the motor is on its way. It is the OBD2. . . . . What other sensors will not work with the OBD1?

Will the injectors work? I seen something about a resistor or something, but I don't know if this will apply here.

I know the fuel rail is backwards, so I will need a longer fuel line or a US fuel rail. Also, which fuel rail will fit?

I know the motor will bolt up to the stock motor mount locations and the transmission will fit fine.


Also, I seen something about that if you are swapping a OBD1 into a OBD2, you will need to swap the oil pump. Is it the same if I am going backwards?
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Old Jun 3, 2011 | 11:31 PM
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Default Re: f22b DOHC parts issues

what clutch can you use on a f22b dohc non-vtec? Didn't see anything about it in the faq.
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Old Jun 4, 2011 | 06:56 AM
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Default Re: f22b DOHC parts issues

Originally Posted by 4RODO
what clutch can you use on a f22b dohc non-vtec? Didn't see anything about it in the faq.
Any, that I seen plenty of times.
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Old Jun 28, 2011 | 04:05 PM
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Default Re: f22b DOHC parts issues

i used the timing belt from the 88 dodge caravan and bought a dohc head gasket kit off ebay for like 90 bucks or something came with everything couldnt find the correct water pump so i left the old one on it...
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Old Jun 29, 2011 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by rebuild_it
i used the timing belt from the 88 dodge caravan and bought a dohc head gasket kit off ebay for like 90 bucks or something came with everything couldnt find the correct water pump so i left the old one on it...
^^^ what he did, also some other info from teggers.com

"Timing belt
Description: 126RU24 (126 teeth, round tooth profile, 24mm wide)
Honda part number: 14400-PT2-004
(The Honda belt will be about $90. Aftermarket belts will be more like $20.)
Gates part number: T132 (also fits 1988 Dodge Caravan 2.5L)
Dayco DY95132 Timing Belt (Dayco - 95132, DY95132, B000C0TFV8)
Goodyear Gatorback 40132
Duralast also makes this size belt, but I don't know that part number.

Balance shaft belt
Description: 70RU16 (70 teeth, round tooth profile, 16mm wide)
Honda part number 13405-PT0-004 (same as '93 Prelude H23A1)
(Honda belt about $60, aftermarket more like $15.)

Water pump
Same pump as that used on US-market '93 Accord 2.2L SOHC F22A

Tensioners, oil filter, all gaskets and seals
Same as those from US-market '93 Prelude 2.3L DOHC H23A1

Other parts (notes from my correspondent)
Timing cover and crankshalt bolt must be from the JDM F22B (they are different from the H23A1). They are marked "PT2".
The H23A1 knock sensor does not fit into the oil sensor hole on the F22B, so use a brass 1/8 to 1/4 pipe thread adapter ( I got mine off an old auto tranny line fitting) make sure to seal all threads to avoid oil leaks.
The H23A1 oil sensor has to be swapped over also (hole is plugged in the F22B).
Don't bother trying to swap the water lines for the oil cooler; it's not worth it."
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Old Jun 29, 2011 | 05:41 PM
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Default Re: f22b DOHC parts issues

All done. . . The one that it came with was fresh. Seemed like brand new, not dry at all.
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Old Jun 29, 2011 | 08:31 PM
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Default Re: f22b DOHC parts issues

^^ what belt did u use. i got a f22b in my lude, and in the same boat. except my h20 pump is leaking now. i was thinking of buying the oem pump with the caravan timing belt.
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Old Jun 29, 2011 | 08:39 PM
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Default Re: f22b DOHC parts issues

I kept the OEM. You can get a OEM belt for a f22b. I would use it only. Or the h23 one.
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Old Jun 29, 2011 | 08:55 PM
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Default Re: f22b DOHC parts issues

I think the caravan one would be fine if u daily drive it. 205 for water pump and timing belt. that includes shipping. so.. u didnt change the belt or pump huh
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Old Jul 6, 2011 | 08:25 PM
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Default Re: f22b DOHC parts issues

the accord water pump has the different teeth on it i called autozone and had them count the teeth for me i checked ebay and napa and all them had 19 teeth and if u had 20 the caravan belt wouldnt work my tensioner is all the way back it goes on incredibly tight i had to fight with mine.
by the way i got almost 2 sets of oem valves left over for the F22b..if anyone interested
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Old Aug 3, 2012 | 07:32 PM
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Hey all,
Ive been reading up on these F22b's. I picked up a 90 Accord with one, which has a snapped timing belt, and I am assuming a few bent valves(Will do a compression test to confirm. Anyway, looks like there is alot of debate about what and what does not work with these JDM motors.

Heres what I have found:

Honda sells the timing belt, and it is part number 14400-pt2-oo4(126 teeth 24mm with round teeth) Also found that other people say Gates T132 and several other brands belts fit
Balancer belt 13405-PT0-004 (70teeth 16mm)
Ok, I understand it takes a water pump from f22a car, or honda part 19200-PT2-013A(I couldnt confirm this on hondapartunlimited.com) only found it on store.autodynamics-honda.com/hopt2oemwapu.html. So unsure about the number of teeth I am supposed to have. Which would obviously matter with finding the correct timing belt(Picture has 19 teeth).

Ok, so I also need laves and possibly valve seals, H23a? Ugh, this is turning into a headache

Anyone got one of these JDM F22b Dohc nonvtec? And replaced these parts? Thanks!
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