ive been troubleshooting but im running out of ideas i have a turbo sonothing is stock i have dsm injectors obd1 ecu and dizzy heat range 7 plugs a hondata base map i took it to be tuned but my clutch was to weak to tune on they put the base map in my buddy drove it home when it got back to town it started to sputter and stall the next day is when i put the heat range 7s in and it started and idled when i gave it gas it died now it wont start what do i do??

 

sounds like u burned up your motor...bang on the tank,maybe ur pump went out....did u put a different pump maybe its weak.check fuel pressure..

 

no i have fuel to the cylinders

 

ok thats great but is the PRESURE what is supposed to be(i think at least 34 lbs)you will get fuel just not enough if the presure. is no right..

 

Is the fuel tuned at all? fouled plugs?

 

im not sure. how do i check fuel pressure?what do you mean is my fuel tuned?

 

plugs dont seem to be fouled out

 

this is my first honda and im not the most mechanically savvy

 

sounds like you are running rich and your plugs might be fouled.
same thing happened to my buddy's mustang.
driving it to the performance shop and started to sputter, plugs were fouled but after he got the tune it ran like a champ

 

now im not running at all so i dont reallyknow how im going to get it back to the shop to tune it

 

do i need to put the stock injectors and ecu back in and start all over or what? is it something simple all kinds of people sound like they have the same type of problem it ran then it didnt i dont get it what is in the dizzy that may have caused this?
im stuck

 

start by pulling the plugs and smelling them. What do they smell like? What color are they? Here is a list of what different colors and build ups will indicate.
http://www.gnttype.org/techarea/engine/plugs.html

When you changed the temp of your plugs did you retard/advance timing to accommodate?

You should really have a fuel pressure gauge installed if you are going to be running fuel upgrades with a turbo. I would go buy a set of standard NGK plugs for 2 bucks each.. turn the boost down and start the car.. If it starts then your preexisting plugs are probably fouled which means the new set will foul eventually but at least you know you are running too rich.

- I hope you have a manual boost controller.

 

i have tried to advance and retard timing still no start. when i pull my plugs they are dry and clean i know that im getting fuel ti the injectors im not sure how much pressure however. im not sure if i have manual controller or not. like i said im stiil learning everything

 

They may look clean but that doesnt mean that they are. You can make a home made boost controller just for trouble shooting purposes. Easy to google how.

Messing with the timing after the fact is pointless..

Get yourself a cheap fuel rail mount pressure gauge, new plugs, a timing light and make the boost controller. A adjustable pressure reg would help too. I wouldent want to rely on the hondata in your case. Even if this stuff doesnt solve your problems its all things you should have on hand if you plan on maintaining a turbo. You should be able to aquire all these things for under 100 bucks.

Tell me exactly what the car does and how it sounds when you turn the key over.. does it click? does it choke? does it sputter.. Be as specific as possible.

 

it turns over but no start when it did run it sputtered but no back firing or nothin i dont really know why it started for the drive back from the shop ran great then all the sudden sputtered out now no start since the last time it ran nothin has been changed or monkeyed with other than putting new plugs in do you think that i should change pressure regulator?

 

Are you running internal or external dizzy coil? Kinda sounds like distributor coil took a ****.

 

internal, but i have good spark if that matters

 

not expecting the worst here but did you take a compression reading on that engine ?
what are the number ?

make shure your injector are firing too, you may have fuel pressure, and fuel pump, but without correct injectors firing no fuel will ever find it's way in the cylinder.

worst case you could do, is unplug boost pipe, change injectors back to stock, with stock ECU. start the car to see if everything is running, then start from there your trouble shooting.
avoid revving this engine if the boost pipe is disconnected, you will overspin the turbo and it may shorten the life span of the turbo bearings.

hope this help!

JP

 

i dont have a compression testor so no i havent checked compression
now if i ran one day and not the next what would explain lack of compression if i dont have any

 

do they make different volumed fuel pressure regulators? is it possible that im not getting enough feul?

 

i did a compression test i have 160 psi on all cylinders. i changed to my stock set up and still got no start any other suggestions?

 

put new stock plugs with the proper temp back in.

 

Make shure your ECU is getting some 12V,
get a look at the Ground on the Thermostat housing.
make shure all ground are good on the engine too while your at it.
change plug I guess. I would look toward the main relay, or the ignitor inside the dizzy next...

let me wrap this up a bit... correct me if I'm wrong:
good compression, fuel pump priming correctly, good ground, ECU is getting power, make shure timming is right, it really should start man...

take your time, go all over it slowly and check everything back, make shure you have spark and injector are firing ( ecu got power ) these are the main point in getting those engine to fire up. and timing off course.

Kranked.

 

mymain relay is brand new so im sure thats not it but i will try the ignitor and timing thank for everyones help i will let you know how that works out everything else is in workin order so i must be getting close then