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my 1993 civic cranks but won't start after shorting the battery

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Old Apr 12, 2011 | 09:07 PM
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Alright so here is the problem. My dumb *** buddy took out my battery to get a bolt that fell behind it. Well in doing this when he put the battery back in the positive cable of the car came in contact with the negative post of the battery. Well this caused the 80amp fuse to blow. I replaced the fuse along with the starter and now my car will still not crank. I have power to everything, my car will not start. My brother in law told me it is something with the ECM I took it out and nothing looks back on it so I dont know what the hell it could be.
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Old Apr 12, 2011 | 09:22 PM
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the starter spins it just wont fire the engine I thought it was the starter at first so i went to the store and bought a new one put it on and it still did the same thing.
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Old Apr 13, 2011 | 06:09 AM
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Default Re: my 1993 civic will not crank after shorting the battery

Lights draw very little power. Even though your battery can turn the starter, doesn't mean that it can fire your plugs...
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Old Apr 13, 2011 | 07:27 AM
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if i hook up jumper cables it should be able to give me enough juice to turn over though right.
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Old Apr 13, 2011 | 07:51 AM
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Default Re: my 1993 civic will not crank after shorting the battery

Originally Posted by mysticstylezrx8
if i hook up jumper cables it should be able to give me enough juice to turn over though right.
IF the problem is with the battery, then yes. If the short fried something, then no. but the battery is the first thing to check.
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Old Apr 13, 2011 | 08:22 AM
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ok so its not the battery anymore ideas. a buddy of mine said that it might be a resistor on the ecm board
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Old Apr 13, 2011 | 08:25 AM
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so the engine cranks over, just doesn't start? Do you have spark or fuel?
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Old Apr 13, 2011 | 08:25 AM
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i know but i grounded out my car
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Old Apr 13, 2011 | 08:28 AM
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the positive battery cable made contact with the negative post on the battery and blew the 80amp main fuse to the battery i replaced the fuse and my car will still not start. I thought it was the starter so I went out and bought a new one. That still did not fix the problem i have checked the fuel pump and all the fuses. and its still not doing anything. The starter is just spinning and no fire is being put to the motor
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Old Apr 13, 2011 | 08:37 AM
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Sounds like there is something wrong with the starter. I've never heard a starter just spin and not crank over. Maybe it's not getting enough juice? Have you checked the voltage? Did you have your old starter checked?
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Old Apr 13, 2011 | 08:40 AM
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the starter spins fast the flywheel is good. I just bought the starter yesterday. The problem is that i grounded my car and now it dosent crank.
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Old Apr 13, 2011 | 08:41 AM
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Sounds like there is something wrong with the starter. I've never heard a starter just spin and not crank over. Maybe it's not getting enough juice? Have you checked the voltage? Did you have your old starter checked?
yeah i had it checked it was the factory original OEM it was 18 years old
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Old Apr 13, 2011 | 08:43 AM
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So the starter spins but it's not engaging the flywheel, test the starter. Did the oem starter test bad?
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Old Apr 13, 2011 | 08:46 AM
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From google search:

Starters come in a variety of designs. On some, the solenoid is mounted on top of the starter. When you turn the key, the solenoid routes current to the starter motor and at the same time pulls a lever that slides the drive gear mechanism out so it will engage the flywheel and crank the engine. If the solenoid is weak or damaged, it may not be strong enough to overcome the spring tension that retracts the drive gear. So the starter spins but doesn't crank the engine.

On other starters, the solenoid is mounted remotely. When the starter motor starts to spin, it ratchets out so the drive gear will engage the flywheel and crank the engine. If the drive mechanism is damaged or hung up, the motor may spin but not crank the engine.

Regardless of what type of starter you have, it will have to come out for further inspection. The drive gear (which is sometimes referred to as a "Bendix drive") should move out when the starter starts to spin. The drive gear usually has a one-way clutch that is supposed to protect the starter against damage if someone keeps cranking the engine once it starts. The gear should turn one way but not the other. If the gear is locked up or turns freely either way, the drive is bad and needs to be replaced. If the drive can't be replaced separately, you'll have to replace the entire starter.
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Old Apr 13, 2011 | 09:06 AM
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the OEM starter was bad im pretty sure i blew it when i arked my battery when the positive cable made contact with the negative post of the battery because my car was working just fine before that
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Old Apr 13, 2011 | 02:53 PM
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omg... the starter engages the flywheel which turns the crank which pushes the pistons up and down. If your starter doesnt engage with the flywheel your engine will not turn over and your starter will spin freely and spin fast... It will not sound like a normal crank. IDC if your buddy is telling your battery is fine... Jumping it will not solve the issue. Your battery is screwed. Take our advice, replace it, and be back on the road.
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Old Apr 13, 2011 | 04:28 PM
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ok so its sounds like a normal crank its just not turning over
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Old Apr 13, 2011 | 04:50 PM
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so your motor IS cranking but will not start right?? have you checked for spark fuel and compression?? to be clear motor cranking means the starter is engaging spinning and turning your motor but, the motor will not start
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Old Apr 13, 2011 | 05:02 PM
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ok so its sounds like a normal crank its just not turning over
Okay, stop talking in jargon that nobody understands. Does the starter turn the engine or not. Let's put this point to rest.
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Old Apr 13, 2011 | 09:12 PM
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yes the starter turns the engine
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Old Apr 14, 2011 | 04:04 AM
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dont worry mine dosnt crank either cuz of a wiring problem t many relayson the things t go through . take off the solenoid wire get a blade female wire end and some wire connect wire end to wire hook it to solenoid arc wire off positive side of battery IT WILL TURN OVER if the starter is goo no exceptions
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Old Apr 14, 2011 | 04:27 AM
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check spark fuel and compression
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Old Apr 14, 2011 | 07:48 AM
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Default Re: my 1993 civic will not crank after shorting the battery

Originally Posted by 92shade
check spark fuel and compression
Im sure if all that happened was a short than his compression is fine because the car was running beforehand...it's obviously spark or fuel. Maybe blew fuse for fuel pump. Did you happen to check all the fuses or did you stop at the one?
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Old Apr 14, 2011 | 08:12 AM
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ive checked all the fuses I was starting to think that it might be the ICM or something with the ECM or the distributor
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Old Apr 14, 2011 | 09:40 AM
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Check all the fuses inside the car and engine bay. Check for spark and fuel.
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