This is basically what Im looking at doing.. Feel free to add or take away from this list or make any suggestions you feel would be a better benefit to not only the motor but my wallet as well.


B20 Block
Endyn Rollerwave pistons 85mm bore 12.36-13.15:1 compression
Endyn Block Girdie
Crower Rods
Endyn Block Posts
Type R Oil Pump
P72-2 Head w/Full Ported Package
Endyn Racing Valves
Endyn Bumpstix w/ Pro-series springs, chromoly retainers, spring seats, hardened keepers
GSR ITM
Endyn Breather Kit
310CC Injectors
Endyn Cam Belt Tensioner
Thermal R&D 2.25'' Exhaust Manifold w/ High Performance CAT
Thermal R&D Stealth Muffler
Endyn Oil Plumbing Kit


Im unsure about which driveaxles I would like to have, something thats can take some abuse but nothing too crazy.. and I am also in limbo for the tranny between the b16 Tranny or the GSR tranny.. guess I should also add that this car is going to be a weekend warrior / autocross car.

 

That's a whole lot of work/money for what HP you'll get. Why not get an appropriately sized t3 turbo to match a small bottom end build for more power with less money?

 

So you are going to spend 5K + on just the engine alone? or are you just throwing out big title names?

oh and btw, the B20 and type r already have the same oil pump

 

well the build is a bit sentimental, so its kinda one of those things where i want top notch yet if i find something better or just as good for less then ill jump on it, and i want to keep it N/A actually, i just love N/A hondas... Im not trying to be the fastest guy, just fun and reliable with a little umph...

oh and the oil pump thing i know they are the same, i just have a pump off a type r in the garage thats pretty new...just trying to be specific i guess.. thanks for the input... keep em comin...

 

https://honda-tech.com/forums/all-motor-naturally-aspirated-44/%7C%7C%7C%7C%7C-new-members-please-read-%7C%7C%7C%7C%7C-2917915/

https://honda-tech.com/forums/all-motor-naturally-aspirated-44/official-all-motor-dyno-thread-1583606/

 

The block girdle would be considered overkill. GSR ITM = intake manifold? 310cc injectors might be a little on the small side, I'd look into 440cc at least. Probably won't need the additional cam belt tensioner. You'll need a 2.5" exhaust minimum and ideally 3" if possible. What about header choice and tuning solution? Those cams you're choosing might be better for higher RPM performance but if you're using the GSR intake manifold, it may not be a good match for those cams etc.

 

i agree go atleast 2 3/8 piping. I really like the Endyn bumpstix. but you will be limited on pre-vtec timing with that high of a compression atleast from what i've read.

 

someone has a boner for endyn.... or a deep pocket... cause they are overpriced. You could do the same build with different namebrand parts parts for much cheaper, and probably better IMO. 3" exhaust with a setup like that will be a MUST. Honetly I have never been a fan of thos cams, they are hit and miss on alot of setups ive seen. If I were you look into some skunks (Pro 2's or 3's) or get ahold of ALL_M0T0R on here for some custom cams. He has a very healthy B20V and should be able to help ya out.

 

Thanks for the input everybody, honestly i choose ENDYN parts cause they are down the street from me and well access is easy. But with that being said I am not biased towards any particular brand and well i dont mean to boast but ive saved for this build for awhile now so i have a few pennies to spare. Another reason I choose ENDYN is well I guess Im a bit particular on not having 30 different brands of parts in the motor, what im trying to say is i like brand compatibility, But based on the suggestions Ill do some more research for the build and see what I come up with and in about a day or so, Ill post the new build list and see what you people think... thanks for the help everyone, appreciate it..

 

Ok I know I said a day or so, but here is what I have come up with ...

B20B Vtec Block (machined/honed/balanced)
Endyn Rollerwave Pistons 84.5mm 12.25-13.02:1 High Comp
Crower Rods
Golden Eagle Block Guard (despite controversy)
P72-2 GSR Head (ported/polish)
Skunk2 Black Series ITM (ported)
Skunk2 Black Series 70mm TB (matched to ITM)
Skunk2 Black Series cam gears
Skunk2 Pro-2 Cams
High Comp .5mm oversized valves
SMSP Style headers
Endyn Oil Plumbing Kit
Endyn breather Kit
Hondata S300
DSS drive axles
GSR Tranny
RC 440cc Injectors
Exedy Stage 2 Cerametallic kit
Exedy lightened flywheel
OEM type-r oil pump


Hope Im not missing anything, doing this very sleep deprived... Also going to use every ARP piece of hardware I can.. With a good tune this should be a fun motor to run, I think.. lol.. I hope.. Well like always let me kno what you think...

 

Why is it that everytime I see people make a laundry list of parts, the words "bench racing" comes to mind??

 

nø bench racing, just trying to get things in order so i can order, ill post pics during the build... but to answer your question its possible that about 70% of people never follow through with anything they say... its become a society trend.. anyways i look forward to prove you wrong about bench racing.. so back to the task at hand, getting the build right in theory on paper so i can make my dream a reality.. thanks for the time..

 

Well u got your list start buying and then we can continue.

But btw, you don't have a B20b "vtec" block. They are all non vtec,

The block guards are ok if installed correctly (don't go hammering it in like a degenerate),

Crower rods... id read up on them a bit more before buying if I were you. I won't say anymore cause it isn't personal experience,

Make sure the header you get is "big tubed",

Would recommend a vicX manifold, and you could save a ton of cash replacing a few parts with equal quality/lower priced stuff (oil line kit, breather kit, pistons). Endyn is rape and your brand compatability theory is ****. Look at the majority of the guys who are making power on here and you will see what different part combos yield better results

I would also look into gearing, final drive swap in that gsr trans would be peachy


And to the rest, at least he doesn't have half his list filled with Blox/Blackworks stuff...

Inforbenchracing

 

I kno the block isnt VTEC thats a head thing with cams lifters rockers and valves but thanks for pointing it out..

Block guard will be installed correctly, everything will be done step by step and carefully... build it right first time dont have to build it again right..

Brand compatibility thing wasn't a theory its more a preference like when buying stereo equipment, sony with sony, bose with bose, etc.... Thank You for the parts recommendations, ill look into them..

Im thinking 4.4 final on the gsr tranny but thats it, havent put any thought into the tranny yet, been focused on the motor and all its little bells and whistles...

and crower rods, ive heard good and bad, but that goes with everything you research there are always horrible negative stories about something, but ive never met anybody personally thats had any issues, i have friends running them in subarus and chevys with way more power then what im getting and so based on personal witness, the crower rods it is unless you can specifically suggest something else and then ill look into it.

Thanks for the suggestions... They are dually noted...

 

Ah yes, the subtlety of those from Honda-Tech. hahahaha

Things on the OPs end look pretty solid. Keep up the maturity and good work. In for results when possible.

Psst..BTW, I run Endyn's myself. Great stuff.. ;-)

 

I like your build and the rollerwave pistons, I would use them myself in a similar build. I think the skunk intake manifold is better than the Victor X on everything that isn't turbo'd. A CNC ported skunk/ITR intake manifold seems to be the ideal on that size motor. Keep the stock sized valves on a B-series build like yours. If you had an H22 or something it might be worth it but rarely on a B-series.

For anyone not familiar with SMSP, you have WAY more options than a basic Hytech header...everyone of his headers is custom and the one he sells for the B20 is more or less a "big tube" already but properly matched to the car it's going on.

 

Thanks for the info. Dually noted and taken into consideration. Unfortunately Im thinking about changing the build all together and just stick with a built B18C OBD1 w/S80 LSD Hydraulic Tranns. Obviously alot of the parts Im going to keep on my list cause of the head but thinking about just doing a total rebuild of the motor from ground up and swap in ITR pistons Valves and use the Skunk2 Pro2's and cam gears and call it a day on the motor. Ill beef up the tranny a bit with new carbon synchros, and a good final drive. Im going to stick with the exedy clutch and flywheel package Ive choose. I don't want to be the fastest guy on the street, I just want something fun to drive and play with. Im really gonna play with the suspension and cosmetics but that's for a whole other forum... anyways.. thanks for the help everybody and whatever i decide to come up with ill post pics as soon as i start receiving parts...

 

I have that swap and love it