This is a trick that i learned from my teacher, and i dont know if someone has thought of this yet....probably have seen this before.....but after you remove the harmonic balancer, timing cover, and you are facing the timing belt......Take a Razor Blade and cut the belt in half......and remove the outer half of the belt from the engine.........loosen the tensioner and slip the new timing belt where the old half of the old belt used to be (the new belt will be hanging off a little bit,)then cut the last of the old belt and push the new belt completely on.....The idea behind this is that the old piece of belt holds the gears enough so the teeth dont jump, and then you are able to slip the new belt on...........

 

U get a A for effort, but this thread sucks already. You should've gave it a "how-to" format and included pics. Your explaination sucks and will confuse people

U should always assume you're speaking to a rookie

 

It wasn't all that bad. I kinda was able to picture it. The belt has to be cut down the middle length-wise. The half that is away from the engine gets removed and the replacement belt slipped on to meet the last half of the old belt. When done. Cut off the remainder of the old belt and ease the new belt on.

 

I got what he said, but a lesser experienced person won't.

And I guarantee its gonna be a pita getting the new belt on without loosening the tensioner.

Like I said, A for effort

 

If a lesser experienced person doesn't get it then this is probably above their skill level.

 

^ reading ownz line 4 loosen tensioner

I think the hardest part would be cutting the t-belt in half while still on the motor

 

lol I'm willing to bet it is above the majoritys skill level


Especially the parts around the gears

 

i am just saying something that i learned in school....for the people that understand, well great...and if u dont get it...well u dont get it....im new to honda tech.......but im not inexperienced

 

Didn't say you were inexperienced

 

Great Idea, going to give it a try but looks like its a winner already since the timing marks will be in sync, thanks for posting

 

guys dont give the kid a hard time...i bet he is still young...you get A+ there son but next time just try to explain more...cause all levels of experience read through all these post and if your a rookie they would not know what your talking about...

 

alright I am new to honda's. my experience is with domestic v8's, but I understood right away. although a new wrench turner might have done this step by step before reading through and cut the belt the wrong way. still great idea. doing my first belt replacement in a day or 2 so I will try this.

 

I understand what you are doing I just dont see the point in it. I just did a timing belt last weekend and before got the old belt off I turned the engine so that the cam timing marks were on TDC. Slip the old belt off, the new belt on without turning anything and double check the marks are where they need to be after its back on. It might be worth it on a twin cam engine but I think cutting a belt in half would be a bigger pita than its worth.

 

its just a trick for someone who doesnt get the timing mark stuff and they wana skip the worry if they did it right or not

 

I think he explained it well enough and I am not giving him a hard time I just think its is more trouble than its worth. But if doing this makes anybody more comfortable by all means do it. After all timing is fairly important.

 

Not having tried this, I am not too sure how easy it is to actually do. The idea seems simple enough, but changing the water pump depends on the particular model I guess.

I do have to ask: doesn't anybody else pull the 'plugs when doing this? I find that it keeps things from jumping around and it is usually a good time to change them anyway. I think I would prefer to be able to inspect the tensioner to see if it needs replacing.

This could be a time saving tip for some though.

 

If you set the motor to TDC first, with the notch on the crank gear pointing to the arrow on the oil pump, pull the belt off carefully, it's not hard.

For DOHC motors, making a tool to hold the gears in place could possibly help. All you'd need is two pieces of wood triangle shaped and a bolt and wing nut. One arrow would go above and one would go below the cam gears and the bolt and wing nut would hold them together to keep the cams from rotating. And you could make this from junk laying around in most peoples' garages.

 

Im experienced but I have trouble visualizing.. me need pictures

 

i do alot of d and b series timing belts, if i wasnt already pretty good at it I can see this being a damn good method of not skipping a tooth!

 

Me too.

I get what your saying, but my brain want's pictures.

 

i mean its a cool idea, but it is kind of janky to not replace the water pump.

 

i find the hardest part taking the mount off
the rest takes like 2 minutes so i wont be doing this

 

wouldn't be a good idea if the engine jumped teeth =oX... just seems lazy its not hard to set timing on b or d series. b series u can lock the cams with a dril bit or 10mm bolt. a d series u leave all the slack on the firewall side with bottom and top at TDC and maybe give the spring and tensioner alil tug if its weak and hold it tight and tighten it down its not rocket science. it will whine when its too tight just back if off some if this problem exist.

 

Lol u realize there are holes in our cams that u can drop a pin in to keep them tdc?
No need for wood triangles

 

You know, I didn't realize that. I saw the holes in the long covers that go over the cams on my GSR head and that never dawned on me, nor did I ever hear about that. Thanks!