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Old Mar 1, 2011 | 02:18 AM
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Hi guys, i have a original first batch of 92' Civic HB Si Sohc Vtec
my car died today on the free way while driving of course and i am guessing it has to be the alternator since if i boost the car it will run for a min or two.
so i asked a buddy to bring me his spare battery so i can get my car home then
i made a newbie mistake by attaching the wrong cable to my battery. + to - and - to + side.
so here is what i need to know.
i so far found out i have a blow Battery 80A fuse and obviously a dead Alternator.
i am just wondering if by any chance i would burnt my ECU (some say its possible but theres a fuse there so i dont' see why it would) also does anyone know which ECU does this car have? i tried to search online but i couldn't find anything.. i assumed it's a p28 but i see p30 p71 ...etc. no idea what it has
i really want to narrow down the problems so i know what to buy to get my car going again.. thanks HT.
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Old Mar 1, 2011 | 05:03 AM
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also i would like to know if the ek alternators would fit into EG
or only from 88-95s are interchangeable.
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Old Mar 1, 2011 | 05:32 AM
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U been on here since 01 and can't find this info???

And you don't have a d16a fyi
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Old Mar 1, 2011 | 05:44 AM
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U been on here since 01 and can't find this info???

And you don't have a d16a fyi
LOL Noob
i have searched but can't find what i am looking for
besides, I do have D16A sohc Vtec (came stock) similar to D16Z6

As i stated above i have the first batch si in 1992 and it was assembled in Canada with JDM motors. (actually i believe USDM/CDM civics from back then were all assembled in Canada, correct me if i am wrong) if you dont' know what you are talking about then shutssshhhhh
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Old Mar 1, 2011 | 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by PaChiLa Leader
LOL Noob
Says the person who can't tell positive from negative.

Have you even looked at the side of the ECU to see if the ID sticker is on there? You never actually said if you did that or not.
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Old Mar 1, 2011 | 06:16 AM
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sorry newb, but the only 92-95 civic to have a d16a series, was the Japanese Si which had the D16A, but it was equivilent to our D16A9. A DOHC non vtec D16. and if you had that you would be running a P09 ecu.

if your car has a d16a, it did not come stock like that in north america.
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Old Mar 1, 2011 | 06:50 AM
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whats going on with HT nowadays

FYI:
A few D-series variants are labelled (Japanese: Honda ZC engine) (usually JDM), but they are not truly a different series.

There are both SOHC and DOHC ZC engines.

The non-VTEC SOHC ZC is similar to the D16A6 ('91 - '96) and D16Y4 ('96-2000) engine, but with more aggressive cam timing.

The SOHC VTEC ZC is similar to the D16Z6 ('91 - '96).

The DOHC ZC is similar to the D16A1, D16A3, D16A8, D16A9 and D16Z5 engines.

[edit] SOHC ZC VTECVTEC

Found in
1991-1993 Honda Civic Ferio EJ3 (JDM)
1992-1995 Honda Civic EJ1 (JDM)
1992-1995 Honda Domani MA4 (JDM)
Displacement : 1,590 cc (97 cu in)
Bore and Stroke : 75 mm × 90 mm (3.0 in × 3.5 in)
Rod Length : 137MM
Rod/Stroke : 1.52
Compression : 9.2:1
Power : 128 hp (95.6 kW, 130 ps) @ 6600 rpm
Torque : 107 ft·lb (14.8 kg/m, 145 Nm) @ 5200 rpm
Redline : 7200 rpm
Fuel Cut : 7300 rpm
VTEC Switchover : 5500 rpm
Fuel Control : OBD-1 MPFI
ECU Code : P70 (Domani), P91 (Civic Coupe), P29
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Well it says it right there. P70, P91 or P29.
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Originally Posted by 92lxsleeper
sorry newb, but the only 92-95 civic to have a d16a series, was the Japanese Si which had the D16A, but it was equivilent to our D16A9. A DOHC non vtec D16. and if you had that you would be running a P09 ecu.

if your car has a d16a, it did not come stock like that in north america.
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The SOHC VTEC ZC is similar to the D16Z6 ('91 - '96).


you know what.. as i said, this car is USDM with stock engine and it came this way.. very few came like that and very rare.

i have the original HONDA certificate dated 02/25/92
the head is still p08
original VIN# engine block stamped D16A
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Okay. The question was "does anyone know which ECU does this car have? i tried to search online but i couldn't find anything.." was it not?

Everything else that you fried because of reversing polarity needs to be fixed. Replace the fuse and alternator and anything else. Remove and inspect the ECU (which should have an ID sticker on teh side) and ALSO replace with a known working ECU if it is faulty.
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Originally Posted by grumblemarc
Well it says it right there. P70, P91 or P29.
thats JDM


man.. i am going to pull my ecu out tomorrow to look at it then..
where are the older guys who actually knows the stuff like patrickgsr94, tonythetiger... those wizards. i am just gonna pm them instead..
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Old Mar 1, 2011 | 07:10 AM
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I wasn't the one who listed specs for JDM engines now was I?

Could have saved yourself the anguish if you just pulled it in the first place. And also learn how to jump start a car properly.
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Originally Posted by grumblemarc
Okay. The question was "does anyone know which ECU does this car have? i tried to search online but i couldn't find anything.." was it not?

Everything else that you fried because of reversing polarity needs to be fixed. Replace the fuse and alternator and anything else. Remove and inspect the ECU (which should have an ID sticker on teh side) and ALSO replace with a known working ECU if it is faulty.
yeah very helpful thanks @.@

just so you know my bud drives a honda as well.. but who knew the spare battery he has which looks exactly the same as mine, same side terminal and everything would have a reverse +/-
anyways.. whats done its done.
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Old Mar 1, 2011 | 07:16 AM
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I wasn't the one who listed specs for JDM engines now was I?

Could have saved yourself the anguish if you just pulled it in the first place. And also learn how to jump start a car properly.
what a tard, didnt' you read above the head stamped p08 which could still be same thing as D16Z6 using p28.. i just want to make sure if anyone whos got the earlier first batch Si

there isnt much info regards to the sohc Vtec D16A
yeah you show me how to jump start a car with a dead alternator.. oh.. i guess next you are probably going to tell me to hand crank the pully to get it going. LOL

yeah save it for yourself
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Old Mar 1, 2011 | 07:23 AM
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yeah you show me how to jump start a car with a dead alternator.. oh.. i guess next you are probably going to tell me to hand crank the pully to get it going. LOL
Who said anything about jumping a car with a dead alternator? I wasn't the one who fried components because I couldn't tell positive from negative. And BTW. Batteries are all labeled which side is positive and which is negative. There are symbols molded right into the battery case next to the posts and even then if you didn't know all you have to do is trace back the ground wire from the shock tower to know which is which.

It's like talking to a brick wall. Pull your ECU and see what it says on the sticker on the side. How hard is that to do?

All of this is premature anyway. Fix the fried components before jumping to the conclusion the ECU is actually fried. This needs to be done regardless.
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Old Mar 1, 2011 | 08:54 AM
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My EH3 is dated 4/92 and it came factory D16Z6, so hopefully this will help you narrow it down to the EH3's from the first quarter of 1992.

I have run across the same problem, my brother crossed the battery cables on his 93 EG sedan and it fried the alternator and battery 80A fuse in engine fusebox. After replacing above items, car fired right up, no problems.

Hope that helps you out.

Originally Posted by PaChiLa Leader
what a tard, didnt' you read above the head stamped p08 which could still be same thing as D16Z6 using p28.. i just want to make sure if anyone whos got the earlier first batch Si

there isnt much info regards to the sohc Vtec D16A
yeah you show me how to jump start a car with a dead alternator.. oh.. i guess next you are probably going to tell me to hand crank the pully to get it going. LOL

yeah save it for yourself
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Old Mar 1, 2011 | 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by PaChiLa Leader
LOL Noob
i have searched but can't find what i am looking for
besides, I do have D16A sohc Vtec (came stock) similar to D16Z6

As i stated above i have the first batch si in 1992 and it was assembled in Canada with JDM motors. (actually i believe USDM/CDM civics from back then were all assembled in Canada, correct me if i am wrong) if you dont' know what you are talking about then shutssshhhhh
thanks anyway

Who u calling noob? U can't even jump a car

Put a p28 in it, replace the fuse, and quit being a retard
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Default Re: Ugent~ need help with 1992 eg Si D16A

all bullshit aside, it shouldnt have fried the ecu, that is what fuses are for
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Old Mar 1, 2011 | 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by sextav6
all bullshit aside, it shouldnt have fried the ecu, that is what fuses are for

thats what i thought just want to confirm it.
my neighbour who works at nissan told me it might so i just want to double check
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Old Mar 2, 2011 | 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted by tlarimer
My EH3 is dated 4/92 and it came factory D16Z6, so hopefully this will help you narrow it down to the EH3's from the first quarter of 1992.

I have run across the same problem, my brother crossed the battery cables on his 93 EG sedan and it fried the alternator and battery 80A fuse in engine fusebox. After replacing above items, car fired right up, no problems.

Hope that helps you out.
thanks for the info man
yeah i finally got some time to work on the car today
Pulled the ECU out and its a P28

anyways i have replaced the 80A fuse and a used alternator.. everything seems to work fine now

thanks guys
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