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Old Feb 16, 2011 | 01:08 PM
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I just got a set of new kyb struts, and was trying to mount them in shop today but couldn't get it to sit right.
The previous owner put some crappy lowering springs on the car, which caused the struts to go out pretty bad. It actually had some "things" I don't know exactly what they were In the spring to raise it up a little bit?? Now, when I put the new struts in with the existing springs, when I lowered the car off the lift the strut just lifted up through the hole. Yes, Everything was tightened down.

The dust boot was completely mangled from before. I tried putting the strut in without the boot, and I put it in with it there. Same results each time.


What am I missing here? Do I just need to get some better springs?

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Old Feb 16, 2011 | 02:14 PM
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Get new springs. Obviously the ones you have are ****ed. Gotta love dealing with the product of someone elses **** up.
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Old Feb 16, 2011 | 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by 1998GsRIntegra
Get new springs. Obviously the ones you have are ****ed. Gotta love dealing with the product of someone elses **** up.
Great haha exactly what I DIDN'T want to hear.


Will the ground control spring / coilover work with the kyb struts?
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Old Feb 16, 2011 | 02:20 PM
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Default Re: New struts not working out...

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Will the ground control spring / coilover work with the kyb struts?
If they are AGX shocks, yes.

If they are the stock replacement GR-2 shocks, then expect to blow them very quickly with either stiffer springs or a lowered ride height.
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Old Feb 16, 2011 | 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by TunerN00b
If they are AGX shocks, yes.

If they are the stock replacement GR-2 shocks, then expect to blow them very quickly with either stiffer springs or a lowered ride height.
They're not the adjustable ones, so I think they're the GR-2. But I only paid $120 for the new set of 4, so if they fit, but only last a little while, I'll just buy koni's at that point.
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Old Feb 16, 2011 | 02:34 PM
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They're not the adjustable ones, so I think they're the GR-2. But I only paid $120 for the new set of 4, so if they fit, but only last a little while, I'll just buy koni's at that point.
I have gr2's with h&r lowering springs on my teg. No problems for the past 17,000 miles. I'm just waiting for them to blow. When they do, I'm switching over to a koni/gc setup. Get neuspeed sport lowering springs. They are the same as h&r sports except much cheaper.
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Old Feb 16, 2011 | 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by 1998GsRIntegra
I have gr2's with h&r lowering springs on my teg. No problems for the past 17,000 miles. I'm just waiting for them to blow. When they do, I'm switching over to a koni/gc setup. Get neuspeed sport lowering springs. They are the same as h&r sports except much cheaper.
http://thmotorsports.com/neuspeed/ne...g/g-54591.aspx

http://www.jhpusa.com/store/pc/viewP...idcategory=390


It's only a small difference, so I figure if it'll work, I'll just go with the coilovers instead of spending the money twice.
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Old Feb 16, 2011 | 03:17 PM
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A little cheaper for the springs here. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NEUSP...Q5fAccessories

IMHO I would just go with the ground controls for the extra $. Back when I was looking at neuspeed springs I could find them for $100 with free shipping. I guess as with everything, prices went up. Good Luck with everything.
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Old Feb 17, 2011 | 08:43 AM
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Default Re: New struts not working out...

Can you take some pictures. It's hard to understand when you say the strut lifted up through the hole. To me it sounds like you forgot a washer in the assembly.
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Old Feb 17, 2011 | 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by lsturbo33
Can you take some pictures. It's hard to understand when you say the strut lifted up through the hole. To me it sounds like you forgot a washer in the assembly.
DING DING DING! OP any other spring will not fix your problem. The problem is that you forgot to install the bumpstop plate after you put the bumpstop on the shock piston. This is a funny looking washer with a beveled hole to match the bevel on the shock piston, and is what keeps the piston from poking up through the mount when it's all bolted onto the car.
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Old Feb 17, 2011 | 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by PatrickGSR94
DING DING DING! OP any other spring will not fix your problem. The problem is that you forgot to install the bumpstop plate after you put the bumpstop on the shock piston. This is a funny looking washer with a beveled hole to match the bevel on the shock piston, and is what keeps the piston from poking up through the mount when it's all bolted onto the car.
Funny you say that haha. I talked to a friend of mine that owns a shop and he said that every time he replaces springs / struts he replaces the strut washers. He said that's probably what's wrong.
I have all of the washers in, but I think it might not be holding up. Does autozone sell these? Or am I going to have to go to a stealership?
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Old Feb 17, 2011 | 01:18 PM
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Default Re: New struts not working out...

I have never seen an OEM Honda bumpstop plate fail. They're not a normal washer. They're THICK arond the middle are with the tapered hole.

Likely have to order them from a dealer or online. My bet is you forgot to put it on the shock piston.
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Old Feb 17, 2011 | 01:27 PM
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Default Re: New struts not working out...

I reassembled it exactly as I saw in the picture I posted, but I'll check it out again to see that its not upside down or something tomorrow.
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Old Feb 17, 2011 | 01:45 PM
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I most likely agree with Patrick you forgot to put them in. I sure hope you didn't buy some new springs yet.
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Old Feb 17, 2011 | 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by lsturbo33
I most likely agree with Patrick you forgot to put them in. I sure hope you didn't buy some new springs yet.
I didn't buy springs yet, but I definitely am going to. I hate these stupid lowering springs. They put the car too low, and ride like ****.
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Old Feb 17, 2011 | 03:38 PM
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If you did install the bump stop plate and they did fail, maybe you installed them upside down where the taper in the washer and shock piston didn't match up.
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