ONLY THE PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY RACE AT IFO CHIME IN. No e-racers allowed...

As of now, FWD class at IFO mixes sfwd and outlaw cars into one. There are only a handful of event locations that bring in enough to separate the class. It is usually a top 8 class, sometimes 16. FIP (Forced Induction Pro) class is open to FWD, but mainly for A/RWD vehicles and sometimes only about 4 enter. Every now and then 8 second Supras come in and dominate. Current payout structure for the classes are...

FWD Q8- 1st $800, R/U $400, Semi 1 $100, Semi 2 $100
FIP Q8 - 1st $700, R/U $300, Semi 1 $100, Semi 2 $100

Here is the suggestion for 2012...

FWD = 67mm turbo limit, air to air, and 24.5 tires.
FIP = 72/water/26 allowed, but this class is open to A/RWD Supras, Evos, etc.

Payouts would change to something like...

FWD - $600 1st, $200 r/u, $100 semi, $100 semi
FIP - $1000 1st, $400 r/u, $100 semi, $100 semi

Discuss...

 

No changes for AMS or AMP right?

 

I think it should be just what you posted Cliff.

 

I wouldn't mind this at all...

 

Just saying, isnt it kinda early to talk about this? I mean theres been like 1 race that happened so far this year and its already rule changes?

 

it will be for 2012 not now.....

 

early/late, it's all the same. The IFO season pretty much never ends. Events from January to December!

Again, only IFO racers chime in. This means you, bigschlong911, lol.

 

its super easy cliff. Follow Jason Millers wild street and true street class structures and you will be golden!!

 

Cliff,
I had thought about changing my turbo from a 72 to a 67mm a couple years ago when BOTI did this same thing and added the outlaw class to put 72mm car's in a seperate class from. The only thing outlaw about my car is that turbo. I'm still on 24.5's and air to air. I see no significant advantage to running the s372r (my current turbo) over the new billet 67mm's. they are going just as quick.

No bitching here, just my personal input. I love your events and will race at it regardless of what class I'm in. With our 8second shop car running along side me, I don't go to races expecting to win haha. It's all out of love for the sport.

On that note, up here in the NW, do you think we'd have enough cars to split the class like you said? At boti in woodburn, I was the only outlaw car running that day. Where as there were about 20 cars in the 67mm class.

-Zol

 

I guess it's time to decide.... 67mm or dss pro level axles. They are both out of reach right now. I guess I'll be racing outlaw on 24.5s

 

i think it would be a good idea might bring some more racers out(like myself) who have their cars setup for NSCRA rules.

 

STOP playing poker and you might have a choice lmao...... I know someone with a 67 for cheap lol......

 

I really don't wanna go outlaw cuz then imma make this pretty candy red hatch enter the car show instead of the racing.

 

LMAO.....

 

I think this is perfect. Definate easy rules to build your cars too. I love it. Pick one and build the car, plus it opens the field to other people that have fast cars making for a bigger field

 

yeah bitch get on my level so I can whoop your *** even harder. 67mm. I been waiting for this $hit to happen. We have plenty of time with our 67mm and we know where we are going with it.

 

Sounds fair to me, I would be in the same boat as others, and would need to either buy a 67mm turbo, or put the real tires on and buy Pro Levels..

I think it is a good idea, Cliffer.

 

I like the rule change!

Marc P

 

I personally do not like the idea and here is why ........

1. The only advantage I see out of this is to slow down the FWD class to make it more competitive. That is not going to happen, you can go just as fast on a 67 air to air and 24.5 tires. All you are going to do is move some guy's into FIP that have a different set up.

2. Fwd cars need to race fwd cars, If you want to run FIP build a AWD or RWD, it is ten times cheaper and you can go faster on a lot less HP.

3. There is nothing broken with the way it is now, if there are enough cars the class is split, faster cars in one and slower guys in the other.

4. I hate to say it but FWD cars are not the most consistent about going down the track for the most part. Splitting classes up even more will just make for more Bye runs.

5. So when there are cars on 24.5 + A2A + 67mm running low 9's will the implement for 2013 be 22'' slicks and a Fat chick next to you ?

I am sure some feel differently, just my 2 cents, just remember that the fastest car does not always win

 

I guess it has been so long since I ran that I'm an e-racer, so I can't comment.LOL

 

I am in the same boat. I built my car with the old SFWD rules before outlaw. 72mm is the only thing thats outlaw on my car as I dont have the money for all the expensive parts. I think 72mm is a good size to cap the turbo, and leave it A2A with 24.5 tire size.

I really like how you split up the last Vegas race we were in. Top 16 (i believe it was) in the fast class, and the slower 8 were in there own, Why not do something like that? Bring what you have and have a cut off for 2 classes? (slower then 10 one class, faster then 10s another class, kind of like bracket racing) Ill still race no matter what class you throw me in, i would just like to feel like i have a chance of winning

 

then why upgrade like you guys did if you can just as fast? Just asking questions not trying to be mean
Why do fwd cars need to race fwd cars? Sounds like chicken **** to me. Fast is fast regardless rwd or fwd. we know that.

"if" this combines them and makes a larger field for more competition. change isn't bad. Times change all the time.

then we should pic diff cars. This is combining classes, not splitting

blah

that's my 2 cents lol

 

The 67mm class has no rule about exiting the downpipe under the car? That's one of the reasons I don't want to go to nscra because of my hood exit downpipe. I think the changes would be great

 

I think you just have to play it by ear based on the region Cliff. I'm sure you'll get plenty of 67mm cars in some areas. But here in Vegas, most of the Turbo Honda guys that do come to play are on a 72mm. maybe 3-4 on a 26"tire, but the other 20 cars that did try to qualify were on 24.5/25" slicks.

Remember we had about 25 cars in that class and most are 72mm. I'm all for the 67mm class, but in the area, it just isnt the norm.

 

So, are the awd & rwd cars going to be limited to the 72mm turbo limit now?